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[Eggs]

Ian Austin's views don't really matter, as he's quite clearly extremely biased in his view. His words are too hysterical to carry any meaning.

....this is why Labour are too inward thinking. Of course Austin’s views will have an impact, the Tory’s are using it already.. His words were powerful and emotional. Labour needs to be clever and try to avoid these situations, although they are lumbered with Corbyn now. Damage limitation.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

McDonnell would do a lot better than Corbyn, people would vote for him.

 

[MarkK1988]

think Corbyn is smashing it personally, ive been very critical in the past of him too

 

[Tubey]

....this is why Labour are too inward thinking. Of course Austin’s views will have an impact, the Tory’s are using it already.. His words were powerful and emotional. Labour needs to be clever and try to avoid these situations, although they are lumbered with Corbyn now. Damage limitation.

They won't, honestly. People will just see it as a crank ranting off about it.

Corbyn's base will dismiss it. The people who will never vote for him anyway will see it as reaffirmation of their views, and the people in between will just laugh at the blatantness of it.

 

[Kurt.]

Corbyn could walk on the stage with a bucket of water and a bag of cute kittens and do the unthinkable... I’d still vote labour for the simple reason they ain’t tories

 

[orly]

Corbyn could walk on the stage with a bucket of water and a bag of cute kittens and do the unthinkable... I’d still vote labour for the simple reason they ain’t tories

Interesting philosophical question.

Would you vote for Labour if..... all taxes were diverted to the RS?

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

McDonnell smashing it out the park here, really good speech and Q&A's.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Because the Daily Mail and The Sun tell them to be.

Or might be that we mistrust anyone who has just been a career activist/politician, one especially who has generally been happy to disrupt and be a voice of protest. There are questions over whether he will be tough enough on national security and see the benefits that capitalism has brought to this country. Most of all if he dives too deep, too fast and these policies don't work then we will be getting a Conservative government for the next 15/20 years and any good he managed in 5 years would be overturned within a similar amount of time. Back to square one then.

People like evolution and not revolution. That's not that you can't target specific areas, like say homelessness and revolutionise that, but if you try to do too much generally something is going to go wrong and will be picked upon by all the media and snowball to force a government out. My guess is that Corbyn is a very good politician but would be unsuitable to be able run government. I hope to be proven wrong.

 

[Eggs]

Corbyn could walk on the stage with a bucket of water and a bag of cute kittens and do the unthinkable... I’d still vote labour for the simple reason they ain’t tories

...as will I, but that won’t be enough. Labour need to be clever and attract non-Labour voters. John McDonnell currently doing a fine job launching the finance campaign.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

McDonnell would do a lot better than Corbyn, people would vote for him.

That man scares me more than three Corbyns. A truly weird and nasty individual.

 

[degsy]

McDonnell smashing it out the park here, really good speech and Q&A's.

He won't want the job - now
Hence the excellent job interview speech for after.

 

[Kurt.]

Interesting philosophical question.

Would you vote for Labour if..... all taxes were diverted to the RS?

Yes

I can choose not to let the RS affect me


I can’t choose to ignore the Tory effect on me

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Because the Daily Mail and The Sun tell them to be.

Given the heavy Tory ownership and control of all media outlets, it always struck me that anyone who threatened to increase the tax on the super-rich would have to face extremely negative, invasive press from all angles - which is precisely what appears to have happened with Corbyn.

He strikes me as an ethical and fair person and, morally, he appears to share a lot of the same values as my family and I do.

I've not voted in the last 10 years because I have little faith in either party to deliver upon their promises and I genuinely don't believe that my vote matters anymore.

Because of that, it's probably fair to assume I've not kept abreast of much of the election noise, other than Brexit which has been practically unavoidable anyway.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

That man scares me more than three Corbyns. A truly weird and nasty individual.

He comes across as serious and knows what he's talking about, always thought he's spoke well any time I've seen him getting grilled by Journo's on TV looking for a weakness.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

He comes across as serious and knows what he's talking about, always thought he's spoke well any time I've seen him getting grilled by Journo's on TV looking for a weakness.

The things that always give me pause about him are that he got fired from the GLC by Ken Livingstone for financial incompetence (just let that sink in...), his constant advocating of violence against people he disagrees with and the fact that whilst Corbyn flirted with Irish republicanism McDonnell was pretty unashamedly up to his knees in it all through the 80s and 90s (going so far as to suggest that a kneecapping might change the minds of some colleagues refusing to meet with Sinn Fein).