Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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er - the correct word there in the British context at least is programme; someone using program instead would usually indicate the person making the statement wasn't taught British English (since program is how American English uses the word).

As for the rest - my point was that you said you believe Labour are going to do extreme things, things that put the economy at risk. These were certainties, and something that you couldn't bring yourself to say about the Tories even though almost everyone accepts that Brexit is going to do exactly that. You then said you'd have to wait before seeing the manifesto, which would tend to suggest that your earlier certainty wasn't based on much.

Bit petty to call someone out on using American English (or international English if you write extensively for a global audience). As for Labour's plans, yes we haven't had a manifesto yet, but we have the 2017 manifesto, which will be illustrative, and we have the recent party conference, in which a number of policies were put forward by Corbyn and fellow front shadow-cabinet members. It's probably fair to say that we have a reasonable idea how things will unfold from a policy perspective. It's also perhaps worth noting that he did say both Tory and Labour were extreme.
 
When your economic strategy is rob the rich to feed the poor, what happens when there's no more rich to rob because they've left the country?

It's student union politics again. Ridiculously simplistic.

Your bed must be that wet you need paddles.
Absolute young tory rhetoric from the two member torysoc from Eton.
How do you think billionaires become billionaires, by hard graft?
 
Bit petty to call someone out on using American English (or international English if you write extensively for a global audience). As for Labour's plans, yes we haven't had a manifesto yet, but we have the 2017 manifesto, which will be illustrative, and we have the recent party conference, in which a number of policies were put forward by Corbyn and fellow front shadow-cabinet members. It's probably fair to say that we have a reasonable idea how things will unfold from a policy perspective. It's also perhaps worth noting that he did say both Tory and Labour were extreme.

He did, and that was sort of my point. The 2017 Manifesto was not extremist, nor was there that much put forward at conference by Corbyn or fellow shadow cabinet front benchers that could be described as extremist; the extremism basically comes from people saying "extremist" so often that people believe it.
 
He did, and that was sort of my point. The 2017 Manifesto was not extremist, nor was there that much put forward at conference by Corbyn or fellow shadow cabinet front benchers that could be described as extremist; the extremism basically comes from people saying "extremist" so often that people believe it.

That's a matter of opinion though isn't it? Some (including me) would argue the sheer body of change in the last manifesto was extreme, and would have been all but impossible under benign circumstances, much less under Brexit. The share grab is pretty extreme I would say. The private school comments were extreme. The landlord policy is definitely extreme. The Brexit referendum itself would suggest many (sadly in my opinion) would regard their migration policy as extreme.

Those are just off the top of my head. It's I guess similar to the Lib Dems, as while I think scrapping A50 is fine and dandy, to moderate remainers that's extreme as they would rather a 2nd referendum, and to Brexiters its goodness knows what. Something is seldom the same to different people.
 
Why do you think Banks wants to turn the tap off now? How are they funding 650 candidates? I hope you are right, we have seen with UKIP one electoral wipe out and they are into oblivion!

This election will be the end for Farage. According to the latest poll he only has 7% of the vote and that will evaporate as the weeks go on. I'll bet they don't win a single seat and then it's goodbye to Farage, The Brexit Party & UKIP at the same time.
 
That's a matter of opinion though isn't it? Some (including me) would argue the sheer body of change in the last manifesto was extreme, and would have been all but impossible under benign circumstances, much less under Brexit. The share grab is pretty extreme I would say. The private school comments were extreme. The landlord policy is definitely extreme. The Brexit referendum itself would suggest many (sadly in my opinion) would regard their migration policy as extreme.

Those are just off the top of my head. It's I guess similar to the Lib Dems, as while I think scrapping A50 is fine and dandy, to moderate remainers that's extreme as they would rather a 2nd referendum, and to Brexiters its goodness knows what. Something is seldom the same to different people.

The public schools one and the landlords one (iirc) were conference resolutions, not things presented by Corbyn or the Shadow Cabinet. Even the shares one could hardly be described as extreme given that it would basically turn Sainsbury’s into John Lewis, except with less worker representation and far more assets.

What you seem to be doing is extending the word “extreme” way beyond its actual meaning in order to justify its use. For example I hate the Lib Dems as much as anyone else who has seen one of their bar charts but their promise to revoke A50 is not in any way extreme; it’s a rational policy, is specifically allowed for in EU law and far more honest than them calling for a second referendum that they’d ignore the result of was.
 
The public schools one and the landlords one (iirc) were conference resolutions, not things presented by Corbyn or the Shadow Cabinet. Even the shares one could hardly be described as extreme given that it would basically turn Sainsbury’s into John Lewis, except with less worker representation and far more assets.

What you seem to be doing is extending the word “extreme” way beyond its actual meaning in order to justify its use. For example I hate the Lib Dems as much as anyone else who has seen one of their bar charts but their promise to revoke A50 is not in any way extreme; it’s a rational policy, is specifically allowed for in EU law and far more honest than them calling for a second referendum that they’d ignore the result of was.
Found an extreme activist...
 
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