Current Affairs The General Election

[havrey0123]

A clause in the bill vote in Friday to make sure the trade talks can't go further then december2020.
The end of Gina miller Trying to block brexit if this passes

 

[peteblue]

Yes we can, because we aren't part of Schengen

So what’s the problem then, are people complaining because we can carry on doing what we have been doing ?....

 

[JimmyJeffers]

That still suggests that 'Get Brexit Done' resonated more than 'For The Many, Not The Few' or 'Bollocks To Brexit'.

Brexit has dominated the news cycle for the past 3 years. Tories message on this was simple, Labour’s was convoluted. This is why they lost.
They didn’t need to start going on about broadband and public schooling ffs.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Boris Johnson could ditch promise to guarantee workers' rights and environmental protections after Brexit, No 10 suggests

Downing Street refuses to confirm that pledges made to MPs in October will be included in amended Brexit bill this week

www.independent.co.uk

I'm shocked...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Brexit has dominated the news cycle for the past 3 years. Tories message on this was simple, Labour’s was convoluted. This is why they lost.
They didn’t need to start going on about broadband and public schooling ffs.

To be fair, their 2017 manifesto was similarly absurd ambitious, and Corbynites seemed firm in the belief that they would have won had the election gone on a bit longer, and therefore they were onto a winner, especially after two more years of abject awfulness from the Tories. Even now, there's this strong sense that the vast policy proposals they put to the electorate were great, but the public didn't like Corbyn/were brainwashed by the media or some other excuse.

From the various vox pop around the country, when people are asked why they can't back Corbyn, it seemed that disbelief about the smorgasbord of proposals put forth was broadly comparable to a lack of faith in Corbyn himself. After all, if this really was a Brexit election, then it does beg the question of whether people really think the trains or broadband are a problem in the first place?

 

[zzr45]

Brexit has dominated the news cycle for the past 3 years. Tories message on this was simple, Labour’s was convoluted. This is why they lost.
They didn’t need to start going on about broadband and public schooling ffs.

Run before you can walk very much at play. The manifesto was written for a Britain that doesn’t actually exist. The key problem the country has was given equal pegging to issues that could be introduced later down the line. The WASPI women was another perfect example of that. Corbyn started making policy up on the spot (while highlighting his own shortcomings with understanding finance.) Johnson was a bit more realistic:
He said he "sympathised deeply" and "would love to magic a solution" but it is "very expensive" to sort out.

 

[spectateur]

First steps towards a dictatorship. Friday Brexit bill ammendment will make any further extension of WA date illegal. No deal crash out now seems very likely.
ERG Still rule it would appear.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Chris Williamson produces a video blaming the Israeli government for Labour's defeat.

Never change Chris.

 

[davids]

So are we back onto the old Brexit = racist line. Were these Labour constituencies racist before or only after voting Conservative ?.....

Probably before,but Brexit gave them the chance to voice it.

 

[davids]

25/hour for manual labouring seems high to me, but fair enough, it's just semantics

But, I'm genuinely lost on the bit I've bolded. Miners voting Tory, saddens me, but it doesn't turn my stomach ( unless you meant it turns yours ? ), I totally understand why they did it. I typed the following before the election ( it was in response to another poster, not yourself, so the comments in it aren't aimed at you )




Also, I'm a bit lost on the I'm all right Jack comment.

The ex-miners certainly don't seem to have voted Tory with an "I'm all right Jack" attitude, quite the reverse, they just seem to have got to the end of their tethers.

Doubtless a significant proportion of the electorate will have voted to purely look after number one, tis always has been the case.

Turned my stomach, and now that society is well and truly divided if you are in work (what ever your salary might be) this government have made it easy to look down on those on Universal Credit or the food bank line and to blame them for whatever ails the UK...and then you always have the fall back of a Rumanian ex-pat if immigration is your preference.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

To be fair, their 2017 manifesto was similarly absurd ambitious, and Corbynites seemed firm in the belief that they would have won had the election gone on a bit longer, and therefore they were onto a winner, especially after two more years of abject awfulness from the Tories. Even now, there's this strong sense that the vast policy proposals they put to the electorate were great, but the public didn't like Corbyn/were brainwashed by the media or some other excuse.

From the various vox pop around the country, when people are asked why they can't back Corbyn, it seemed that disbelief about the smorgasbord of proposals put forth was broadly comparable to a lack of faith in Corbyn himself. After all, if this really was a Brexit election, then it does beg the question of whether people really think the trains or broadband are a problem in the first place?

There is nothing absurd about Labour wanting to make society fairer, the fact the Tories imposed austerity on the country and lowered Corp Tax to take out 30bn in public funding a year and gave it back to the companies to dish out in obscene bonuses to their top staff says it all.

While 760 homeless people died on the streets last year, and 1.6m foodbank parcels were given out, what are the Tories going to do about that, knack all.

If they hadn't cut Corp Tax, there was no need for austerity, make no mistake, austerity was a political decision.

 

[zzr45]

Chris Williamson produces a video blaming the Israeli government for Labour's defeat.

Never change Chris.

If it wasn’t for Israel Hezbollah & Hamas wouldn’t exist and Corbyn wouldn’t of met them. Sneaky!

 

[davids]

Do you assume that no Remain voter wants immigration controls. Is it only Remainers who are virtuous, or is it only Remainers who are frightened of getting out of Europe and working with the world. I’m sure that people who want to stay cocooned within a predominantly White Europe are not racist in any way.....

Is racism purely based on skin tone?

 

[zzr45]

There is nothing absurd about Labour wanting to make society fairer, the fact the Tories imposed austerity on the country and lowered Corp Tax to take out 30bn in public funding a year and gave it back to the companies to dish out in obscene bonuses to their top staff says it all.

While 760 homeless people died on the streets last year, and 1.6m foodbank parcels were given out, what are the Tories going to do about that, knack all.

If they hadn't cut Corp Tax, there was no need for austerity, make no mistake, austerity was a political decision.

Plz stop talking nonsense.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

If it wasn’t for Israel Hezbollah & Hamas wouldn’t exist and Corbyn wouldn’t of met them. Sneaky!

The guy is an absolute creature. I'd get a ban if I wrote what I really think of him.

But luckily for the rest of us he's also the first sitting MP ever to lose their deposit.