Current Affairs The General Election

[Alan Whittle]

Yes we can, because we aren't part of Schengen

Doesn't fit with the Katie Hopkins, Daily Mail vibe.....can't be true..

 

[Paris]

I dunno, when you have somewhere like Blyth, that has been brutalised by council cuts, benefit cuts and the disastrous implementation of UC, by a Tory government, then you do begin to wonder like.
The blame has been successfully shifted from politicians and the upper class to foreigners. Many people may take offence to that but that’s what I see and hear from people.

I've heard that said for at least 20+ years.

As for the first part - are you seriously blaming the electorate? It was our mistake, we considered Corbyn to be fit to win over the country. Forgetting that most of the country just want to be left alone to tend to their own gardens and certainly don't want a bloody revolution.

Corbyn was a disaster from start to finish. I argued at local CLP meetings that he should have left after the 2017 General Election as he had lost to a woman who had led a disastrous campaign and came across as being colder than a freezer and completely out of touch. However, most were caught up in the elation that we hadn't been completely wiped out.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I've heard that said for at least 20+ years.

As for the first part - are you seriously blaming the electorate? It was our mistake, we considered Corbyn to be fit to win over the country. Forgetting that most of the country just want to be left alone to tend to their own gardens and certainly don't want a bloody revolution.

Corbyn was a disaster from start to finish. I argued at local CLP meetings that he should have left after the 2017 General Election as he had lost to a woman who had led a disastrous campaign and came across as being colder than a freezer and completely out of touch. However, most were caught up in the elation that we hadn't been completely wiped out.

I can’t for the life of me think why someone on UC and/or in low paid work would vote for this government. I don’t think it’s stupidity but I think it’s ignorance. I know that makes me sound like a condescending prick, but I’m really struggling to get my head round it.

 

[Cardano]

I've heard that said for at least 20+ years.

As for the first part - are you seriously blaming the electorate? It was our mistake, we considered Corbyn to be fit to win over the country. Forgetting that most of the country just want to be left alone to tend to their own gardens and certainly don't want a bloody revolution.

Corbyn was a disaster from start to finish. I argued at local CLP meetings that he should have left after the 2017 General Election as he had lost to a woman who had led a disastrous campaign and came across as being colder than a freezer and completely out of touch. However, most were caught up in the elation that we hadn't been completely wiped out.

Why do you think he was a disaster though?

I’m pretty far from being a Corbynite/Momentum man I assure you.

But being fair to him, I do think a massive part of Corbyn being so unappealing to the country was due to a pretty concerted media campaign to demonise him.

If that hadn’t of taken place, do you still believe he would have been a disaster?

I do believe that he maybe came across as maybe slightly unconvincing as a PM, but the level of opposition to the man did seem to me to be quite irrational and synthetic.

And that will happen to any Labour leader to one degree or another.

Remember them attacking Ed Milibands dead dad as hating Britain? Absurd that was.

 

[Blues Harp]

I think a lot of folk in this country think politics is something that happens to other people......they profess not to be interested until something actually happens to them...sad really.

 

[zzr45]

I can’t for the life of me think why someone on UC and/or in low paid work would vote for this government. I don’t think it’s stupidity but I think it’s ignorance. I know that makes me sound like a condescending prick, but I’m really struggling to get my head round it?

Think you’re right in a way. I think when you’re at the bottom you just view everything with skepticism. The Tory’s offered a way of changing the status quo (I know!) and that’s appealed.

Get Brexit Done is easy to understand. Things like increased taxation on businesses with turnovers over £400,000 become a bit more complicated, unilateral taxation on multinationals is really pushing the boundaries.

 

[Cardano]

I think a lot of folk in this country think politics is something that happens to other people......they profess not to be interested until something actually happens to them...sad really.



Yeah I’ve never understood that view.

Besides it being important and actually affecting you, I’ve always thought it was fascinating and really interesting from a young age.

But people prefer Love Island or something.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Think you’re right in a way. I think when you’re at the bottom you just view everything with skepticism. The Tory’s offered a way of changing the status quo (I know!) and that’s appealed.

Get Brexit Done is easy to understand. Things like increased taxation on businesses with turnovers over £400,000 become a bit more complicated, unilateral taxation on multinationals is really pushing the boundaries.

3 simple stupid words. They didn’t need to say much else (and largely avoided doing so) When they were quizzed on other matters they were largely disastrous.

 

[PSB1]

Go to an event celebrated by a religion other than your own? A firm I used to work for in the E. Midlands had a very inclusive Divali celebration every year. Invite some Poles round to share a meal having first taken the trouble to read up a bit about their history & culture.....are just two examples off the top of my head. "Kvetch" is a lovely multi cultural word btw.

Having a couple of Polish blokes over for lunch on New Year's Day … they can't get the time off to go home for the holiday. Not celebrating our diversity - just feeding the buggers. I did the different religions bit when I was in London … found all of them equally tedious no matter what the language / rituals. I'm either a fascist or an airhead. Maybe both.

 

[Paris]

Why do you think he was a disaster though?

I’m pretty far from being a Corbynite/Momentum man I assure you.

But being fair to him, I do think a massive part of Corbyn being so unappealing to the country was due to a pretty concerted media campaign to demonise him.

If that hadn’t of taken place, do you still believe he would have been a disaster?

I do believe that he maybe came across as maybe slightly unconvincing as a PM, but the level of opposition to the man did seem to me to be quite irrational and synthetic.

And that will happen to any Labour leader to one degree or another.

Remember them attacking Ed Milibands dead dad as hating Britain? Absurd that was.

I have met Corbyn - he had the weakest handshake I've ever known a man to have.

Anyway, it wasn't just the right-wing media attacks on him, it was his own documentary he conducted with Vice (A very left-leaning content creator) that made me realise the man just did not have a clue how to lead. Moreover, he was in touch with the nation.

There is a reason why Tony Blair has been the only Labour leader to win a General Election in 50 years. It's because he wasn't extreme and didn't come across as an alien.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I have met Corbyn - he had the weakest handshake I've ever known a man to have.

Anyway, it wasn't just the right-wing media attacks on him, it was his own documentary he conducted with Vice (A very left-leaning content creator) that made me realise the man just did not have a clue how to lead. Moreover, he was in touch with the nation.

There is a reason why Tony Blair has been the only Labour leader to win a General Election in 50 years. It's because he wasn't extreme and didn't come across as an alien.

The documentary point is an interesting one and I had forgotten it.. But it was made by an organization broadly sympathetic to him and he still came off as a weak, vacillating non-leader who couldn't handle people disagreeing with him.

As far as the rest of the campaign against him goes, it seemed to be made up mainly of people reporting things Corbyn had done or said.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Having a couple of Polish blokes over for lunch on New Year's Day … they can't get the time off to go home for the holiday. Not celebrating our diversity - just feeding the buggers. I did the different religions bit when I was in London … found all of them equally tedious no matter what the language / rituals. I'm either a fascist or an airhead. Maybe both.

Doesn't sound like it to me mate. I hope you enjoy your New Year's Day meal. The religious stuff is not for me either tbf I was just trying to answer your question with a couple of examples.

 

[Blue 1]

I have met Corbyn - he had the weakest handshake I've ever known a man to have.

Anyway, it wasn't just the right-wing media attacks on him, it was his own documentary he conducted with Vice (A very left-leaning content creator) that made me realise the man just did not have a clue how to lead. Moreover, he was in touch with the nation.

There is a reason why Tony Blair has been the only Labour leader to win a General Election in 50 years. It's because he wasn't extreme and didn't come across as an alien.

Vice is part-owned by Rupert Murdoch.

 

[Billy Dean]

3 simple stupid words. They didn’t need to say much else (and largely avoided doing so) When they were quizzed on other matters they were largely disastrous.

That's what wins elections. It was the same with Blair, "Education, Education, Education", "Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime"

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's what wins elections. It was the same with Blair, "Education, Education, Education", "Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime"

That still suggests that 'Get Brexit Done' resonated more than 'For The Many, Not The Few' or 'Bollocks To Brexit'.