Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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No different to Corbyn saying that the conservatives are going to sell the NHS to Trump. Personally I happen to believe that most people over the age of 35 don’t react, listen or believe any of the nonsense contained in ‘fake news’....

The issue is probably slightly broader with the NHS. This has been a stock line for a number of elections, and eventually I think people become a bit de-sensitised to it. The government have made it clear there won't be any sale to the US and that from their side they will not allow the NHS to be charged extra for drugs. That will be a difficult negotiation, though not impossible. If they backtrack on said promise I think it will be politically very damaging, but if they stick to it they will probably comment some votes in key areas.

Johnson has an interesting political choice now, and real freedom to execute. He can listen to the free-market headbangers in his party who want more privatisation across the board (in spite of the electoral ticket they stood on being the opposite) or he could listen to what his new voters have given him. If he does the latter, it will be hard for Labour to win a lot back.
 
I'm looking forward to Sturgeon asking for a 2nd Ref off Johnson, I must say.

The Scots vote was a once-in-a-generation thing. Brexit is no excuse to repeat it as the Scots could've voted OUT last time and re-joined the EU instead, but they already showed they value the UK-alliance more.

It would be divisive for Sturgeon to campaign for another referendum...folk have had enough division for now.
 
It was an "I'm all right Jack" election.Shaking my head at how many so called Labour safe seats just wanted rid of Jonny Foreigner and stuff those on benefits. A country really does get the government it deserves.

The country voted to leave the EU. Labour was elected on a manifesto promising to enact this vote. They did everything they could to stop Brexit. The people care more about democracy than MP’s. A political party really does get the votes it deserves.....
 
A word on Corbyn. The man has been the victim of the most vicious, hysterical attacks imaginable over the last 4 years. I will never say anything other than he was a decent, principled politician who genuinely wanted to help the most vulnerable in our society. I hope for his sake he gets some closure from it all because on a human level it can´t been easy to endure.

Whether you like it or not, he inspired thousands of 20 somethings like me to become active in politics and gave us some hope where there was seemingly none. He dragged the political debate away from austerity when it was the only pitch to be made.

Anyway, get stuck in with the I told you so comments. Every single one of us is hurting badly today but we´ll take our medicine, reflect and carry on the fight.
Burnham could well be Prime Minister today if he had won the Labour leadership election.
He's not daft enough to throw his hat in now, but he could easily have won yesterday.
 
The issue is probably slightly broader with the NHS. This has been a stock line for a number of elections, and eventually I think people become a bit de-sensitised to it. The government have made it clear there won't be any sale to the US and that from their side they will not allow the NHS to be charged extra for drugs. That will be a difficult negotiation, though not impossible. If they backtrack on said promise I think it will be politically very damaging, but if they stick to it they will probably comment some votes in key areas.

Johnson has an interesting political choice now, and real freedom to execute. He can listen to the free-market headbangers in his party who want more privatisation across the board (in spite of the electoral ticket they stood on being the opposite) or he could listen to what his new voters have given him. If he does the latter, it will be hard for Labour to win a lot back.

I think Boris is more of a pragmatist than an ideologist, he will do the right thing and may well win the next election...
 
The issue is probably slightly broader with the NHS. This has been a stock line for a number of elections, and eventually I think people become a bit de-sensitised to it. The government have made it clear there won't be any sale to the US and that from their side they will not allow the NHS to be charged extra for drugs. That will be a difficult negotiation, though not impossible. If they backtrack on said promise I think it will be politically very damaging, but if they stick to it they will probably comment some votes in key areas.

Johnson has an interesting political choice now, and real freedom to execute. He can listen to the free-market headbangers in his party who want more privatisation across the board (in spite of the electoral ticket they stood on being the opposite) or he could listen to what his new voters have given him. If he does the latter, it will be hard for Labour to win a lot back.
Think this election has proved that nothing is politically damaging for more than a few days.Sell the NHS in 2021 and still loads of time for social amnesia.
 
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