Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Frightening period will start once UK exists the EU, Johnson will have at least 2/3 years left and will go extreme to ruin the country with that crazy majority.

Such a shame most voted for Brexit yet it is a mandate for 5 years. Scary.
 
If only Corbyn had shown conviction one way or another on Brexit.

Campaign passionately to remain in the EU in 2016 and help stop the movement of Labour Leavers. He could have done that by explaining why the EU is not the fault of the decays in small towns and traditionally Labour land but instead Westminster and years of austerity.

Instead he was at best lukewarm given he was a lifelong eurosceptic.

The other way is to have maintained the 2017 policy of respecting the referendum result. No second referendum. If he levelled up with Johnson on brexit then this election might not have been a brexit election because both parties agree we will come out.

Instead he thought he could win on a social policy platform when the whole purpose of a winter election being triggered was brexit deadlock.

I don't think the social policies in the manifesto were bad. Labour still held onto seats in the North but the drop in numbers to the Brexit Party was a horrible swing. Those people were essentially punishing Labour by voting on a single issue.
 
It was costed, billions was coming from the corporation tax rise to 26%, still below Italy, Germany, France who have much higher rates.
The money was also coming from quatitative easing.
Quantitative easing is an unconventional monetary policy in which a central bank purchases government securities or other securities from the market in order to increase the money supply and encourage lending and investment.

In Labour's plan it was basically printing money which the state would owe back to the central bank.
There would have been no added cost for borrowing the money given the interest rate market.

Traditionally the risk is seen as driving inflation because there is extra money circulating in the economy. Which means the gains are lost.
But this depends on a number of factors, specifically where the money goes.

It is also criticised because its been used in the past to bolster private sector investment through govt incentives/funding - but all the money does is end up as accumulated capital in the hands of private sector, there is a small trickle down effect which doesn't do nearly as much with the money as intended. But the public still owes the money.

What Corbyn/MacDonald intended was make sure every cent went to the benefit of the people, while driving the economy forward at the same time.
It wasn't going into social welfare, it was to drive industry, private and public, at the local level.
This was all very carefully considered and costed.

But none of this was properly discussed in the media, the public completely unaware of what was being proposed.

The country has pissed that opportunity away....you know, for real change

The Tories will drive investment and create a few jobs but all the benefits of all the activity will end up in private hands, make no mistake about that.
The hoarding continues.....
 
Remainers can carry on deluding themselves. The likes of Starmer would be faced with the same problem.
Only if he maintains the same position as has previously been adopted. If he said we will ensure that any trade deal doesn't undermine x,y,z but we will stop pushing for another vote then he should be fine. He's been fairly neutral throughout and could effectively suggest he was implementing strategy.
 
I have taken time out to contemplate the result and to come to a sensible conclusion on what unfolded last night.

My conclusion is that the election was clearly rigged and is illegitimate. Corbyn must stand again.
 
Frightening period will start once UK exists the EU, Johnson will have at least 2/3 years left and will go extreme to ruin the country with that crazy majority.

Such a shame most voted for Brexit yet it is a mandate for 5 years. Scary.
Yup, they’ll run the lot into the ground before announcing a big bucks deal with the US to sell off the NHS to ‘save the economy’ :mad:
 
Rubbish he toed the party line in September to allow mps to gain control of parliamentary business to derail Brexit.

The biggest turncoat of the lot - good riddance yes, but not for the reasons you claim .

Skinner would be a massively popular poster on a forum like this.
He could post all sorts of controversial stuff to wind people up from his armchair while pocketing approx. 70k a year.



Actually, thinking about it, he may well have been on here for years lollollol
 
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