Current Affairs The General Election

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Disappointing.

It obviously plays a part, but if that's the line they're taking then God help us. Labour's problems are manifold, and some soul-searching is needed if they're going to figure out how to unite the disparate groups that still support them and then attract the support necessary to find a path back to power.

Also, cheers for not being too much of a tit about your devastating victory.

I've seen the party chairman and McDonnell both blame their brexit stance the reason for defeat, they know what's happened it's plain as day, the shocking thing is they thought their brexit policy had a chance, they shot both their feet off before the election campaign had even started, told 5m Labour leave voters to F' off.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Groundhog Day

Brexit
NHS Crisis
Trump
Fat Sam
Grenfell
Homeless Crisis
May
6 Times
Corbyn
Grease Mogg
Johnson
Farage
Election
Premier League 19-20

 

[Billy Dean]

It wasn't just about brexit. My parents and grandparents all staunch labour justify found corbyn toxic.

how people find him more toxic than Johnson genuinely boggles my mind

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Yep, had he honoured the referendum I think he may just have won.......

He had a great chance with that manifesto, austerity has taken its toll, people want change, but not at the expense of brexit.

 

[Blue 1]

I've seen the party chairman and McDonnell both blame their brexit stance the reason for defeat, they know what's happened it's plain as day, the shocking thing is they thought their brexit policy had a chance, they shot both their feet off before the election campaign had even started, told 5m Labour leave voters to F' off.

Some harsh lessons in the post for places like Barrow and Blyth.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Every safe Labour seat that went Tory the swing went to the brexit party not Tory. Labour effectively shot themselves in the foot.

Because in those longstanding Labour seats they could not bring themselves to vote Tory knowing a vote for the brexit party would achieve the same thing.

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

The fact we have food banks in the UK in this day and age should of been reason enough for the Tories to be left to rot, but a landslide win is just a massive screw you to the kids in low income homes, many of them live by our great club by the way, for you Evertonian Tories


Let the working man pick up the pieces of a messed up society and buy an extra loaf for their fellow neighbours because the selfish ones are in control for 5 more years

 

[Alan Whittle]

He had a great chance with that manifesto, austerity has taken its toll, people want change, but not at the expense of brexit.

They have been convinced into thinking brexit will give them all the things they want. Boris (or his advisors) have cleverly cemented in some peoples minds leaving with a brilliant NHS, low taxes and prosperity for all whereas they are quite separate.

 

[dandydan]

Because in those longstanding Labour seats they could not bring themselves to vote Tory knowing a vote for the brexit party would achieve the same thing.

Labour left them.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Some harsh lessons in the post for places like Barrow and Blyth.

Brexit trumps everything with those Labour voters, a lot of votes were lent last night, they will return to Labour next time round.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Well atleast brexit will get done now, then all the Labour voters can get back to voting Labour next time round when Austerity continues for the next 5 years.

Won't matter, Trump is licking his lips, won't be the trade deals as such it will be the conditions in which they set. Such as NHS, they won't come near offering a their private service unless they are guaranteed compensation even if they loose a renewing contract , they will want all monies back, people think PFIs are bad, just wait. It be enshrined in law both domestically and internationally. Those Labour voters have lent their house keys to a house thief and gone on holiday.

 

[degsy]

....I was a union member for over 40 years and I’ve got the gold badge to show it, but I saw a unity left movement of not very smart people taking over and pushing an agenda that if folk didn’t agree they were bullied and they were outcast.

Trade Unions do a great job, Labour has rightly had close ties but we now have a greater merger of the two and I don’t think it’s healthy and I don’t think it works. Increasingly, Labour is selecting a narrow church of ex-Union type candidates. They all talk the same talk, they are not well-rounded and it puts the electorate off.

Labours reason for being was workers rights...vast swathes of Industries and the workers that were downtrodden in them have gone.
50yrs ago that was my Labour
But things, circumstances and people change

(Workers, those that remain, have many rights now, but still need to be vigilant and have expanded into a new shade...pale lavender, neither red nor blue...and definately not the oft sung deepest red...of middle class.)

'The people' Labour people - their people, in 50yrs, have all gone in different directions
So have Labour, Blair found them a direction.

...and it wasn't Left

They followed Corbyn - now they're lost.
Lost in the political wilderness.

 

[edge]

i was bollock naked , stipped of my Brexit sheild

how people find him more toxic than Johnson genuinely boggles my mind

not a real fan of corbyn , but he is on a different level all together than Johnson,
first time in a long while anything has got to me as Johnson winning that easy, got me a bit down in the dumps for a while , which surprised me to be honest as i was expecting a Tory win.
Anyway it done so we will have to live with it.

 

[Charro]

....I was a union member for over 40 years and I’ve got the gold badge to show it, but I saw a unity left movement of not very smart people taking over and pushing an agenda that if folk didn’t agree they were bullied and they were outcast.

Trade Unions do a great job, Labour has rightly had close ties but we now have a greater merger of the two and I don’t think it’s healthy and I don’t think it works. Increasingly, Labour is selecting a narrow church of ex-Union type candidates. They all talk the same talk, they are not well-rounded and it puts the electorate off.

Fair enough fella.

 

[peteblue]

how people find him more toxic than Johnson genuinely boggles my mind

Just maybe look at his history of support for anyone except the U.K.....