Current Affairs The General Election

[abelard]

Been out voted but not sure why I really bothered. Regardless who gets in, nothing changes. As far as I’m concerned they are all either self serving and lining their own pockets or utterly incompetent.

“Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow.” - Hannah Arendt

 

[Khalekan]

Very interesting. Yet another ( more subtle ) way of the media involvement in influencing the electorate.

Yip.

Who needs Putin when you have the BBC and the Daily Mail batting for you.

 

[catcherintherye]

Been speaking to a fair few people canvassing last few nights.

I will do something a bit more in depth hopefully later tonight, but I think the tories will be lower than what the polling companies have them. I think all the experts will have got it wrong again (which is fairly consistent with what I've felt for some time). I think they are very close to being at hung parliament territory.

 

[catcherintherye]

Its swinging one way and then the other.
Bit of backing for the Tories now.

My nerves are frayed to smithereens. Think I will just ignore the markets for the next few hours.

The tories definitely on the drift.

 

[catcherintherye]

Let battle commence.

Bookies odds on a Conservative majority have shortened heavily overnight.

I didn't see this morning mate, but they look to be drifting to me. At about 65-70% currently.

 

[bol-uk]

For the last 20 years I have lived in Bath which is tight between Libs and Nasty party. It puts me in a quandary, tactical or go with Labour as they have been rumoured to be much closer this year. I am good friends with my local Labour reps but am unsure whether to trust their call on just how close it is. Do NOT want to hand the Tories anything.

What to do???

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

"Bregsit" is the problem.

His only fault in that respect was that he was forced to prevaricate on being fully behind it by his right wing PLP. He should have shown greater and more forceful leadership.

Corbyn is a brexiteer through and through, anyone who knows his history knows that, he has never been a fan of being governed by the EU.

He's been pushed into offering a 2nd Ref by Starma and the rest of the front bench remainers, had Corbyn not alienated 5m Labour leave voters he'd have a hell of a chance of being PM.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Been out voted but not sure why I really bothered. Regardless who gets in, nothing changes. As far as I’m concerned they are all either self serving and lining their own pockets or utterly incompetent.

That's just not true mate, Labour will have a good go at looking after you.

 

[abelard]

had Corbyn not alienated 5m Labour leave voters he'd have a hell of a chance of being PM.

Why are people who claim this never willing to consider that there might be another side of the coin?

Labour not offering young people a plausible remain option could well have been every bit as devastating to their long term prospects as the Lib Dems wilting on tuition fees.

You may not be entirely wrong, but it is nowhere near this simple or obvious, and there were certain to be enormous costs either way.

 

[devogue]

For the last 20 years I have lived in Bath which is tight between Libs and Nasty party. It puts me in a quandary, tactical or go with Labour as they have been rumoured to be much closer this year. I am good friends with my local Labour reps but am unsure whether to trust their call on just how close it is. Do NOT want to hand the Tories anything.

What to do???

probably vote for libs

 

[bol-uk]

probably vote for libs

I have had a labour placard on a pole in my garden for about a month!

 

[abelard]

I have had a labour placard on a pole in my garden for about a month!

I doubt Labour have ever won Bath though? The Lib Dems seem a safer bet.

A trustworthy tactical voting site might be worth looking at - not that their predictions are all that sophisticated, but in swing constituencies they will create a certain momentum of their own.

 

[bol-uk]

I doubt Labour have ever won Bath though? The Lib Dems seem a safer bet.

A trustworthy tactical voting site might be worth looking at - not that their predictions are all that sophisticated, but in swing constituencies they will create a certain momentum of their own.

Traditional Lib Dem area with a Tory incursion of late.I really feel there are many more labour voters here this year which really could mess things up.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Been speaking to a fair few people canvassing last few nights.

I will do something a bit more in depth hopefully later tonight, but I think the tories will be lower than what the polling companies have them. I think all the experts will have got it wrong again (which is fairly consistent with what I've felt for some time). I think they are very close to being at hung parliament territory.

I think (or could be hope - I'm not quite sure at the moment) that the Tories will get anywhere between 295 to 325. I don't think Labour will fall apart at the hands of the Tories or Brexit parties and the Tories will just be making up for seats they will lose in Scotland anyhow if they did pinch a few.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Why are people who claim this never willing to consider that there might be another side of the coin?

Labour not offering young people a plausible remain option could well have been every bit as devastating to their long term prospects as the Lib Dems wilting on tuition fees.

You may not be entirely wrong, but it is nowhere near this simple or obvious, and there were certain to be enormous costs either way.

Labour already had the Youth vote with their manifesto regardless of brexit.