Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Ok mate. You are in the game. You honestly think an "independent" body finds that only one party in a GE has not, at a stretch, had misleading info in ANY ad?

FYI, if you buy your missus some perfume for Christmas, she wont start walking around the front room in a revealing gold laced gown. And no one has ever eaten a flake in a waterfall.

Top of my head, I can't think of a misleading advert from Labour at this election. I could be wrong, but everything I've seen has been stat-based with sources on the screen.

Happy to be proven wrong, but look who's on this independent body, not exactly a team of momentum members.
 
Why? All it conveys is that the MoS printed something that was crap. Some other equally crap newspapers, which have the intellectual depth of a thimble, also used the same attack line. George thinks it’s unfair that they haven’t printed an apology yet because the MOS played the game.

I’m not sure what you think is groundbreaking about it, all it conveys is a bit of a whinge. Politicians lying isn’t exactly new either. Not sure why it should be front page news, but hey!
You are clearly a know nothing who believes they know everything. The Mail and other toe rag lying newspapers are controlled by Viscount Rothermere, a Tory grandee. The governing body who placed the embargo on that story, despite it being proven beyond doubt to be an utter lie, is a claimed voluntary body controlled by the press. It consists of people from the newspaper industry with every paper represented. It's existence was agreed by a Tory government who did so under the argument of press freedom. That freedom is directly controlled by Rothermere, Murdoch and other paid up right wingers. Parliament wanted an accountable body an argument the Tories rejected, no bloody wonder.
The journalist who wrote that article could well have ended his career for breaking the Tory embargo simply because he wanted to bring the truth to the public. I wonder what he'd say to your asinine response.
At no point have I said Labour or the rest are innocent of lies but that should not hide the biggest liars from exposure. You want to see public opinion controlled in this fashion then vote Tory because they are welcome to you.
 
That’s not quite what I meant - what I mean is that kind of abstract level of wealth shouldn’t be for just one person. I think it’s fair to say that distribution of wealth is a serious problem in this country where our public services are failing, many people are dying and becoming homeless due to poverty and the top 1-5% own about 50-60% of all wealth. The rampant greed and imbalance is what needs to be addressed, obviously a form of wealth tax would be a reasonable way of doing this in today’s climate.

My issue is, we shouldn’t have got to the stage where wealth is distributed like this, and that comes down to a massive flaw in “trickle down economics” which is - nothing is enough for the super rich, and as a result very little actually trickles down. Another issue being that the free market economy is driven by profits alone, which means there by definition has to be both winners and losers. Unfortunately the “haves” are essentially playing monopoly with loaded dice and tend to win a lot more than people who either can’t afford to play, or have not had the advantages.

In a nutshell, some folk have more money than others. Always been the case, always will be.

My suggestion would be that the levers that are available to make the lives of those less fortunate than most, are deployed more intelligently. But its a balance between supporting what some would call the "hard working families", and avoiding what some would call "a lifetime on benefits".

I dont pretend I have the answers, but what I do know is that whatever ones favourite solution is, you need to have a thriving economy, jobs, and stability re interest rates to actually deliver it.

And to take 3 random billionaires, Richard Branson, James Dyson, and Steve Lansdown, all 3 have contributed massively to the GDP/employment/tax take for the UK. Way more than any politician has.
 
I wish that poll above wasn't anonymous.

the way Tories are demonised on here i'm not surprised fellow blues aren't keen on outing themselves.

maybe Labour voters aren't as liberal as we think...it's a sign of fascism to aggressively pipe down a section of the electorate.
 
lol

ANY "independent body" that finds any political party has zero misleading ads, whilst another has 88% of misleading ads, I would suggest, isnt that independent.
Labour have tried to run their campaign with integrity, you pick out stuff Labour have said that is lies, you’ll struggle.

I’ve lost count of the amount of Tory MPs swerving TV interviews, Labour MPs never fail to turn up and be counted.

I’ve seen so much fake news, manipulation of the truth and outright lying from the Tories in this campaign and the media that supports them I’m past caring now, I’ve accepted the whole thing is bent and it's another 5 years of Tory rule.
 
Top of my head, I can't think of a misleading advert from Labour at this election. I could be wrong, but everything I've seen has been stat-based with sources on the screen.

Happy to be proven wrong, but look who's on this independent body, not exactly a team of momentum members.

Mate, there isnt a political party on the planet that hasnt egged the cake on an ad, like ever.

Until now. Would you believe it if they said that every Tory ad was 100% true?

Like I said, you are in their game. You know as well as I do, trust nothing and no one in an election.
 
I really CBA to mate. My point was that I would be a tad suspicious that in these social media days, only one party is 100% true on 100% of ads.

much like Kim winning 100% of the vote as leader of North Korea. At least in UK, people are free not to believe such obvious tricks.
 
But there's egging the cake and then there's full on lying.

Kinda the same the same thing isnt it?

I aint having a go at any party, I am being consistent as I was last night re social media and reactions to it. If you honestly think every single word of every single ad from the LP is 100% true, well, I would be astonished. Cos thats the claim.

Me, I am more suspicious of motives.
 
lol

ANY "independent body" that finds any political party has zero misleading ads, whilst another has 88% of misleading ads, I would suggest, isnt that independent.
I'm not quite sure what your point is here, why wouldn't they be independent? The coalition members are here for interest https://reformpoliticaladvertising.org/coalition-members/

The First Draft comment is here https://firstdraftnews.org/latest/t...side-step-scrutiny-thanks-to-facebook-policy/

It was a 4 day sample across the beginning of December. I would suggest you read the article first, then the reports before summarily dismissing what is quoted.
 
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