Current Affairs The General Election

[summerisle]

Imagine Christmas day with this lot.

 

[Connor]

 

[ChesterBlue]

In Vietnam I always tell students to actually read Marx, which everyone is "supposed" to read in school but never does.

His work provides a very perceptive (and ironically very subversive) critique of the unrestricted authoritarian capitalism that prevails there, and it is more or less hiding in plain sight - the Communist Party having at great expense and care had all of his works very capably translated and distributed.

In China, university students have started forming Marx studies groups, to pore over and debate his works. Then they turn up at iPhone factories to organise the workers, whereupon the police beat the daylights out of them, then throw them in prison.

I realise as I'm typing this that it has little to do with the UK election - soz, Dear Reader.

Very interesting nonetheless, I’ve been reading his work books for the first time lately (having always been quite against the free market economy and very left wing) and it does make a lot of sense - in my 3 years living in Liverpool centre (having just moved away last week) you could see first hand the impact that aggressive capitalism is having on the UK in the form of homelessness increasing and food bank use increasing which is why I thought Marx’s points have never been more relevant. I personally don’t think billionaires should exist as no one needs that kind of wealth, even more so at the cost of so many people even in a first world country living below the poverty line. I think the distribution of wealth seriously needs to be challenged as this can’t be right.

 

[roydo]

I personally don’t think billionaires should exist as no one needs that kind of wealth,

What would you do? Ban them?

 

[davek]

She’s not even from the same hospital. She’s a medical secretary from some completely different hospital. As per the Guardian:

I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats.

Now, if the Tories were capable of hacking accounts to spread the story - why choose someone totally unrelated to it - also the way she got ‘hacked’ is completely nonsense ‘I accepted a friend request and that was it!’

She’s started it and then bottled it.

Ok.

But this is a story straight from theior playbook. A friend of Matt Hancock.

Sickening.

 

[royalbalou]

Surprise surprise, BBC news slating Labour/Corbyn and making BJ look like a 'jolly chap' ... cannot believe how they get away with such bias

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not even at the hospital that it was from. Dave, she’s claiming to have been hacked but it’s bloody obvious she’s said it was faked and deleted everything to hide from the world.

She hasn't hidden from the world though, she's gone on record to say her account was hacked and it was reported to action fraud

Either way, if hacked, which would be very sinister or she made it up then deleted, it's a complete failure of journalism - 1st to pass it off as credible and amplify it and then subsequently not to afford the fact that it was untrue equal or greater significant to stop it spreading.

 

[Jebus_lives]

General election 2019: Ads are 'indecent, dishonest and untruthful'

Campaigners say fact checks of political ads must become legally required after a "fake news" election.

www.bbc.co.uk

What a way to frame this story. 88% of Tory online adverts misleading, none of Labours in the same period are.

Translates to 'Election ads are indecent, dishonest and untruthful'

 

[roydo]

General election 2019: Ads are 'indecent, dishonest and untruthful'

Campaigners say fact checks of political ads must become legally required after a "fake news" election.

www.bbc.co.uk

What a way to frame this story. 88% of Tory online adverts misleading, none of Labours in the same period are.

Translates to 'Election ads are indecent, dishonest and untruthful'

lol

ANY "independent body" that finds any political party has zero misleading ads, whilst another has 88% of misleading ads, I would suggest, isnt that independent.

 

[davek]

I wish that poll above wasn't anonymous.

 

[Connor]

lol

ANY "independent body" that finds any political party has zero misleading ads, whilst another has 88% of misleading ads, I would suggest, isnt that independent.

How so? You could just, you know, not mislead people with lies.

 

[roydo]

I wish that poll above wasn't anonymous.

Why? I havnt even looked.

 

[roydo]

How so? You could just, you know, not mislead people with lies.

Ok mate. You are in the game. You honestly think an "independent" body finds that only one party in a GE has not, at a stretch, had misleading info in ANY ad?

FYI, if you buy your missus some perfume for Christmas, she wont start walking around the front room in a revealing gold laced gown. And no one has ever eaten a flake in a waterfall.

 

[ChesterBlue]

What would you do? Ban them?

That’s not quite what I meant - what I mean is that kind of abstract level of wealth shouldn’t be for just one person. I think it’s fair to say that distribution of wealth is a serious problem in this country where our public services are failing, many people are dying and becoming homeless due to poverty and the top 1-5% own about 50-60% of all wealth. The rampant greed and imbalance is what needs to be addressed, obviously a form of wealth tax would be a reasonable way of doing this in today’s climate.

My issue is, we shouldn’t have got to the stage where wealth is distributed like this, and that comes down to a massive flaw in “trickle down economics” which is - nothing is enough for the super rich, and as a result very little actually trickles down. Another issue being that the free market economy is driven by profits alone, which means there by definition has to be both winners and losers. Unfortunately the “haves” are essentially playing monopoly with loaded dice and tend to win a lot more than people who either can’t afford to play, or have not had the advantages.

 

[summerisle]

If this wasn't cringeworthy enough



There's this from De Piffle's declaration of member's interests.