Current Affairs The General Election

[Paris]

I've got to hand it to the BBC. They've done well to stack the audience with 99% Momentum members.

 

[Agent Blue]

But he said that Johnson would be bogged down for years in negotiations but he would wave a wand and all done in 6 months.

Zippo credibility to me.

Maybe Corbyn has been having his own negotiations with Europe for as long as Mr Fib.

 

[nsno-chris]

Here will go....

let’s see how many questions he actually answers

 

[dannyboy]

The questions have been brilliant. This format is so much better than the ITV debate the other night. Swinson has been held to account in a way that journalists have often failed to do so.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Bo-Jo walks into booing, this should be fun.

 

[Agent Blue]

Here we go!

 

[Tubey]

She's deffo going to be sobbing backstage after that.

It was like a young kid studying law suddenly being told to defend a serial killer in real court - completely out of her depth.

 

[dannyboy]

Here will go....

let’s see how many questions he actually answers

I hope the questions are as good as they were for Swinson.

 

[Connor]

Swinson was just missing the mega blink from The Thick of It

 

[dannyboy]

She's deffo going to be sobbing backstage after that.

It was like a young kid studying law suddenly being told to defend a serial killer in real court - completely out of her depth.

I can only guess she is really inexperienced in this kind of thing because she was pathetic. She should be grateful ITV booted her out of the other debate.

 

[Blues Harp]

COYB! oops sorry wrong thread.....this is better than the match day one...getting Jo on didn't work did it?

 

[Jebus_lives]

@Tubey @nsno-chris

Labour backs Corbyn and sticks to neutral stance on Brexit

Conference votes to support new referendum but will wait to decide how party will campaign

www.ft.com

The referendum was a simple In or Out in part because there was a desire for a right vs wrong decision. It suits a simplistic media narrative to have things reduced to In or Out but shouldn't necessarily be the only viewpoints for discussion, especially for a political party which is a very broad church.

Corbyn risks alienating each side equally if he picks a side, so the move to suggest he is neutral is a sensible one, if not necessarily a marketable one.

I think the principle being that no matter how good a deal they might get, and I am incredibly sceptical that they would get anything greatly advanced from May's WA, it is still not a better position than Remain, however, it acknowledges that people voted to leave, so that is the Parliamentary definition of leave.

Remain - no change
Corbyns Deal - respects the referendum but defines leave and attempts to safeguard jobs and some standards
No Deal - a vote for complete unknown.

So while those who voted own have a 'credible' offer to choose, Labour would back remain as they think it is the best of the 3 options. Corbyn stalls neutral so he is not accused of favouring one side over the other.*

*At least I think that's the logic.

Labour and Brexit: Corbyn’s ‘neutrality’ on a second referendum is not neutral | LSE British Politics

Jeremy Corbyn's stance on Brexit in the run up to the 2019 party conference is far from neutral and endangers his entire project to transform British politics, explains Eunice Goes. This year’s annual conference was supposed to be a launchpad from where Labour would show voters that the party is...

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Jeremy Corbyn suggests he would stay neutral in second Brexit referendum

Jeremy Corbyn has put himself on a collision course with Remainer MPs after signalling that he will remain neutral in a second referendum.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Jeremy Corbyn defends 'neutral' stance in second EU referendum

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has defended his plan to go into a possible snap general election without saying whether he would campaign to remain in the European Union in a second Brexit referendum.

www.scotsman.com

Perhaps you might consider this a 'confirmation' of a neutral stance, but really it's one of the things that's caused an awful lot of confusion about Labours position...people want them to pick one side or the other and they have largely maintained they will let the people decide.

 

[dannyboy]

Biggest applause Swinson got was when she walked off. The audience destroyed her and then thanked her for the pleasure. Love it.

 

[Tubey]

@Tubey @nsno-chris

Labour backs Corbyn and sticks to neutral stance on Brexit

Conference votes to support new referendum but will wait to decide how party will campaign

www.ft.com

Labour and Brexit: Corbyn’s ‘neutrality’ on a second referendum is not neutral | LSE British Politics

Jeremy Corbyn's stance on Brexit in the run up to the 2019 party conference is far from neutral and endangers his entire project to transform British politics, explains Eunice Goes. This year’s annual conference was supposed to be a launchpad from where Labour would show voters that the party is...

blogs.lse.ac.uk

Jeremy Corbyn suggests he would stay neutral in second Brexit referendum

Jeremy Corbyn has put himself on a collision course with Remainer MPs after signalling that he will remain neutral in a second referendum.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Jeremy Corbyn defends 'neutral' stance in second EU referendum

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has defended his plan to go into a possible snap general election without saying whether he would campaign to remain in the European Union in a second Brexit referendum.

www.scotsman.com

Perhaps you might consider this a 'confirmation' of a neutral stance, but really it's one of the things that's caused an awful lot of confusion about Labours position...people want them to pick one side or the other and they have largely maintained they will let the people decide.

No, he has consistently refused to answer which way he'd campaign in a second referendum. All he had to do is say what he did tonight - "I will be neutral".

He's never publicly said it, so it created completely unnecessary dithering and confusion. Again. It's a trademark of Corbyn.

 

[Agent Blue]

His lips are moving.......he's lying again