Current Affairs The General Election

[spectateur]

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It doesn't really mean much as it stands, does it. Change of government is brought about by what goes on in the so-called marginal seats. A party can be called to form a government with not much more than a third of the popular vote. So much for FPTP.

 

[Agent Blue]

Corbyn/Momentum don't see New Labour as Labour. They are separate entities. He and Momentum think it's in their interests that New Labour are blamed for everything, because it further erodes at the memory of it and reinforces the Labour that exists now.

They aren't interested at being in power nationally - if it happens it's a happy coincidence for them. They're only interested in having their ideology rock solid and ingrained through the Labour party.

I must admit that I see Labour/New Labour in exactly the way you describe and that really we have had 40 years of Conservative government. It was like a breath of fresh air when Corbyn came along because he offered something different to Centre Right and the Right that had been the status quo for probably 40 years. It's not that I think Corbyn the man is anything special it is that he offers the working class hope when before there wasn't any.

I am ashamed of the Labour Party for taking Bliar onboard, and could never bring myself to vote for him or The Clunking Fist and I'm sure I read a quote back in the day, that Thatcher had said something like she wasn't that concerned that Labour had come to power as her legacy was quite safe under Anthony Bliar.

I think that Labour will lose the G.E., but that with momentum on board the Labour Party is now a party that Beatrice and Sidney Webb would once again recognise and will keep the Left as a force to be reckoned with for the near future as I don't see Billy Bullpoo lasting the full five years.

 

[Zatara]

Thats basic. Lots of expenses on top of this, plus access to heavily reduced facilities with the palace of Westminster. Lots will sit on boards, take lobby money too etc.

Being an MP is a means to an ends.

I imagine so but for me, i cant see how a Labour leader can be wanting total state control whilst plonking himself at the top as the King and yet to my knowledge has zero experience or ability in running businesses.

It makes absolutely no sense to me at all...and Abbot ive only seen making a show of herself on video. She doesnt even know what shes saying...its odd from such a high salaried person.

It seems to me like Corbyn is the same as one of those guys in the movies who go and live in a cabin in the mountains for many years writing a end of days...manifesto...to create doom.

How can they get voted in and how can they qualify being paid such amounts of money...

Honestly, if either werent in politics do they have any other background experience or qualifications to fall back on?

How can these people want state control on so many companies...surely its a power trip or even worse its a suicidal act before writing a book and going on a speaking circuit.

Im looking at the poll on here and gobsmacked people would vote for them

 

[Zatara]

Out of all of the party leaders, do any of them have any decent track record of success in non-political employment?

Farage was a commodities broker...anyone else?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

it will all come out in the wash.....

What happens if we have a minority government again?

 

[davek]

it will all come out in the wash.....

It will.

I satnd by my long held view that this is headed toward a hung parliament...then it gets interesting.

 

[neil999]

What happens if we have a minority government again?

lib dems will abstain on queens speech if they get a referendum

 

[gonetomorrow]

What happens if we have a minority government again?

We won't because Labour will win a landslide victory.
The council house building starts December 13th.

 

[abelard]

I don't tend to dip my toe in political threads generally, I lurk more often than not whilst keeping to the football and read as an observer.

I like your analysis above and some other contributions of yours if I may say so, concise and eloquently put.

I have had articles published (sports-related) in a national newspaper years ago, not long after my university days but never took things further due to a somewhat contradictory combination of busyness and laziness.

You might have a flair for comment-piece writing? (just saying from one anonymous poster to another on an internet forum, so not at all being patronizing).

Being an avid reader, I have come across many who get published regularly for much less.

Cheers mate, this is extremely kind of you, and probably too generous - I can also be impatient, a bit of a brat, and as @Bruce Wayne can assure you, not especially concise either ; )

Since you ask, I've had some short pieces published in a national paper in the US, and also took some time off on here recently to finish a book manuscript - though neither have anything to do with what I post about in the current affairs forum.

I'd love to take a look at your articles, if you don't mind - you can PM me if you don't want to reveal yourself here.

Thanks again!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Cheers mate, this is extremely kind of you, and probably too generous - I can also be impatient, a bit of a brat, and as @Bruce Wayne can assure you, not especially concise either ; )

Since you ask, I've had some short pieces published in a national paper in the US, and also took some time off on here recently to finish a book manuscript - though neither have anything to do with what I post about in the current affairs forum.

I'd love to take a look at your articles, if you don't mind - you can PM me if you don't want to reveal yourself here.

Thanks again!

I feel if we blended you and Joe together we'd be in the right ballpark.

 

[Jebus_lives]

What happens if we have a minority government again?

Lib Dems form a coalition with the Tories...

 

[Jebus_lives]

The result was a positive score of +4 for the Conservatives, and a negative score of -91 for Labour, suggesting coverage had been overwhelmingly negative for the main opposition.

Loughborough University election press coverage study. I've posted previous articles and reports in here with similar conclusion.

I know people often bang the drum about media coverage but it really does play a massive role and there is such a clear bias.

Link to the Independent coverage here:

British newspapers heap positive coverage on Tories while trashing Labour, study finds

Pro-government and anti-opposition coverage rife in first week of general election campaign

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Tubey]

Lib Dems form a coalition with the Tories...

The only question is whether a second referendum will be the cost.

But it's Jo Swinson - she'll jump into bed with the Tories at the drop of a hat.

 

[abelard]

The result was a positive score of +4 for the Conservatives, and a negative score of -91 for Labour, suggesting coverage had been overwhelmingly negative for the main opposition.

Loughborough University election press coverage study. I've posted previous articles and reports in here with similar conclusion.

I know people often bang the drum about media coverage but it really does play a massive role and there is such a clear bias.

Link to the Independent coverage here:

British newspapers heap positive coverage on Tories while trashing Labour, study finds

Pro-government and anti-opposition coverage rife in first week of general election campaign

www.independent.co.uk

That story about Merseyside, Brexit, and not reading the S*n, only on a national scale

 

[neil999]

The only question is whether a second referendum will be the cost.

But it's Jo Swinson - she'll jump into bed with the Tories at the drop of a hat.

surely that would wreck the tory party?