Current Affairs The General Election

[JammyP]

But Corbyn is a terrorist
Deaths by terrorist attacks 4,000
Deaths by austerity 120,000

Terrorist attacks a bit over-estimated. As at 2018:



from https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdf

 

[orly]

Do this Dave.

I got 99% Centre Frandely Party 1% Clique.

Make of THAT what you will.

 

[Dharma]

"Eh ooop, arr juss want bregsit dun, so arl vort fer Boris".

Honest to God. These people need disenfranchising. The thick gets.

 

[Socrates]

Tom Walker pretty much nails how I'm seeing things as usual

Off to see him at the end of the month. Looking forward to it.

 

[zzr45]

General election 2019: Labour vows to end dental check-up charges

Check-up charges in England of £22.70 will be scrapped under a Labour government, the party says.

www.bbc.co.uk

More free stuff. With flaws pointed out already that there aren’t enough NHS dentists (have there ever actually been?) to provide it.

 

[Bluerover]

I got 99% Centre Frandely Party 1% Clique.

Make of THAT what you will.

Not a citizen of, or resident in UK but apparently 77% SNP, 70% Green and 70% Labour.

30 years since graduating from University, my former student colleagues would be surprised at how far I have moved Left!! I was quite a right winger in my long haired days!!

By contrast I have also noticed that left radicalism in college generally moves rightwards as soon as former students get a mortgage/start renting, and become tax payers. Self employed tend to be even more right wing.

Interesting poll, and somewhat different results to those Irish versions I have done, which have me more centrist albeit with green (small g note) tendencies.

 

[Eggs]

Makes my blood boil the number of utter serfs planning to vote for the Tories.

They ought to be ashamed of themselves, the boot-licking scumbags.

....it’s not in the least bit surprising given how short-sighted and insular Momentum Labour is. Hopefully the polls are wrong, but if this useless and dangerous Tory Party cannot be overturned then it’s difficult to see any future for Labour. Rather than blame the media, the voters and everybody else, they’ll need a root and branch change to their governance and strategy.

They appeal to the few and have to change so that they appeal to the many.

 

[tsubaki]

....it’s not in the least bit surprising given how short-sighted and insular Momentum Labour is. Hopefully the polls are wrong, but if this useless and dangerous Tory Party cannot be overturned then it’s difficult to see any future for Labour. Rather than blame the media, the voters and everybody else, they’ll need a root and branch change to their governance and strategy.

They appeal to the few and have to change so that they appeal to the many.

If that happens, criticism of the media will be well deserved given that they have planted nonsensical ideas like "Momentum Labour" in peoples heads.

 

[Eggs]

If that happens, criticism of the media will be well deserved given that they have planted nonsensical ideas like "Momentum Labour" in peoples heads.

....but my point is that Labour should’ve been clever enough to distance themselves from the connection.

 

[Billy Dean]

Vote Tory and side with Tommy Robinson.

 

[gonetomorrow]

General election 2019: Labour vows to end dental check-up charges

Check-up charges in England of £22.70 will be scrapped under a Labour government, the party says.

www.bbc.co.uk

More free stuff. With flaws pointed out already that there aren’t enough NHS dentists (have there ever actually been?) to provide it.

We'll have to get them from outside then.

 

[tsubaki]

....but my point is that Labour should’ve been clever enough to distance themselves from the connection.

Not really, because its impossible to distance yourself from a mistruth, especially one which is based on an idea - that small factions control political parties - which is at one level widely believed by the populace (and which was true of Labour at various times, especially under Blair).

Of all the things that we were told would happen when "Momentum took over" - purges, deselections, demands for ideological purity, fixed contests, factionalism - none of them happened. Yet the "Momentum Labour" thing keeps getting trotted out, often by journalists who were members of or closely associated with a faction that actually did many of those things and which would emphatically do them again.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

General election 2019: Labour vows to end dental check-up charges

Check-up charges in England of £22.70 will be scrapped under a Labour government, the party says.

www.bbc.co.uk

More free stuff. With flaws pointed out already that there aren’t enough NHS dentists (have there ever actually been?) to provide it.

The unemployed and students get free dentistry anyway don't they?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We'll have to get them from outside then.

They scrapped the free movement pledge this weekend.

 

[Eggs]

Not really, because its impossible to distance yourself from a mistruth, especially one which is based on an idea - that small factions control political parties - which is at one level widely believed by the populace (and which was true of Labour at various times, especially under Blair).

Of all the things that we were told would happen when "Momentum took over" - purges, deselections, demands for ideological purity, fixed contests, factionalism - none of them happened. Yet the "Momentum Labour" thing keeps getting trotted out, often by journalists who were members of or closely associated with a faction that actually did many of those things and which would emphatically do them again.

....removing Corbyn would’ve been a big positive, especially if he was replaced by a bright, we’ll-rounded, innovative leader with values and freshness. Corbyn decisively defeating Andy Burnham is a reflection of left wing control of the party that doesn’t appeal to the voters Labour need to attract. The fact the likes of Burnham and David Milliband have decided to get out of Westminster says lots about this Labour Party.

The media is what the media is, Labour don’t help themselves by being politically naive. It’s a game, they need to learn how to play it rather than pandering to themselves.