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[catcherintherye]

He's much rather a majority of 10 than the -30 odd he started with.

Of course, he's about minus 20 isn't he.

However with a pact stopping him losing any MP's via the BXP and their support collapsing, he will want a bigger majority than 10.

Forget new composition, if he has a majority of 10, different groups of Tories begin forming pacts to force through the bits they want. It will be ungovernable.

 

[Tubey]

a bit shameful that Tubey

So be it, I think that tweet is.

 

[peteblue]

He doesn't need 100. I don't think a 100 majority has ever been on the cards - this ain't gonna be a 1997 landslide. I think they'll get a majority but even it's only a majority of 10 he'll be delighted.

a majority is a majority......

 

[peteblue]

a bit shameful that Tubey

but correct.....

 

[Tubey]

but correct.....

1. He's encouraging strikes. Great electoral look right there.

2. It would make Maccies burger flippers higher paid than many skilled professionals.

3. McDonald's would simply cut the workforce if forced to do it, meaning Corbyn would be encouraging job losses.

4. Labour don't even pay a £15 wage for their own low paid positions.

5. If that came the default wage for McDonalds, all that would happen is that prices would rise, skilled professionals would charge more, small to medium businesses would go stagnant or bust, employment rates would be lower and you encourage massive inflation.


It's idiotic. Truly stupid.

 

[catcherintherye]

a majority is a majority......

It is, but a majority of under 20 is very difficult to govern with. As Major, Cameron, May and Johnson have found.

They think they are winning a 50+ majority.

 

[catcherintherye]

1. He's encouraging strikes. Great electoral look right there.

2. It would make Maccies burger flippers higher paid than many skilled professionals.

3. McDonald's would simply cut the workforce if forced to do it, meaning Corbyn would be encouraging job losses.

4. Labour don't even pay a £15 wage for their own low paid positions.

5. If that came the default wage for McDonalds, all that would happen is that prices would rise, skilled professionals would charge more, small to medium businesses would go stagnant or bust, employment rates would be lower and you encourage massive inflation.


It's idiotic. Truly stupid.

People seem quite supportive of the Mcdonalds workers from what I can see. 15 quid an hour is hardly a fortune either. In my previous residence I paid 1100 for a 2 bed flat. Good luck doing that on less than 15 quid an hour!

 

[Tubey]

It is, but a majority of under 20 is very difficult to govern with. As Major, Cameron, May and Johnson have found.

They think they are winning a 50+ majority.

They only need enough to pass Brexit through and then be able to throw money at electoral promises.

Any problems after that could be sorted by another election where they would absolutely get a massive majority.

As it stands, they only need a majority of around 20-25 to comfortably deal with Brexit, and I think they'll get that at the very least.

 

[peteblue]

It is, but a majority of under 20 is very difficult to govern with. As Major, Cameron, May and Johnson have found.

They think they are winning a 50+ majority.

Johnson has already culled the awkward squad.......

 

[orly]

1. He's encouraging strikes. Great electoral look right there.

2. It would make Maccies burger flippers higher paid than many skilled professionals.

3. McDonald's would simply cut the workforce if forced to do it, meaning Corbyn would be encouraging job losses.

4. Labour don't even pay a £15 wage for their own low paid positions.

5. If that came the default wage for McDonalds, all that would happen is that prices would rise, skilled professionals would charge more, small to medium businesses would go stagnant or bust, employment rates would be lower and you encourage massive inflation.


It's idiotic. Truly stupid.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...bulletin-Civil-Service-Statistics-2019-V2.pdf

Higher than the median in the Civil Service.

It's a big call

 

[peteblue]

1. He's encouraging strikes. Great electoral look right there.

2. It would make Maccies burger flippers higher paid than many skilled professionals.

3. McDonald's would simply cut the workforce if forced to do it, meaning Corbyn would be encouraging job losses.

4. Labour don't even pay a £15 wage for their own low paid positions.

5. If that came the default wage for McDonalds, all that would happen is that prices would rise, skilled professionals would charge more, small to medium businesses would go stagnant or bust, employment rates would be lower and you encourage massive inflation.


It's idiotic. Truly stupid.

A few years back I said that this was the biggest mistake Labour had done and that he will ruin the Labour Party. I’ve seen nothing to change my opinion....

 

[catcherintherye]

They only need enough to pass Brexit through and then be able to throw money at electoral promises.

Any problems after that could be sorted by another election where they would absolutely get a massive majority.

As it stands, they only need a majority of around 20-25 to comfortably deal with Brexit, and I think they'll get that at the very least.

Well yes, 20+ is very different to 10.

Most conservatives don't support spend and borrowing. There's absolutely no doubt to me that they organise if Johnson has a majority of 10.

May had a majority of around 10 and couldn't govern.

Whatever happens in this cycle, I think we need to drop the idea that it's business as normal, 5 year cycles all over again. I've heard it after 2015, 2017and when Johnson first came in. People laughed when I said out there's not a chance Johnson lasts the year out without an election.

If he is under a 50 majority, there will be enormous problems for him. Brexit will get harder and he will have to make more compromises. It's a good job he has Farage completely redundant now.

 

[Tubey]

A few years back I said that this was the biggest mistake Labour had done and that he will ruin the Labour Party. I’ve seen nothing to change my opinion....

The counter argument is "well, all other jobs should get pay increases too - punch up, not down!"

So the Momentum/Labour argument is to give everyone a 33% increase in wage then. Great! I can't see how there can be any problems with that!










.... morons.

 

[catcherintherye]

A few years back I said that this was the biggest mistake Labour had done and that he will ruin the Labour Party. I’ve seen nothing to change my opinion....

A Macdonalds strike is the worst thing the Labour Party have done? Were you alive to see the Ed Stone mate!?

 

[catcherintherye]

The counter argument is "well, all other jobs should get pay increases too - punch up, not down!"

So the Momentum/Labour argument is to give everyone a 33% increase in wage then. Great! I can't see how there can be any problems with that!


.... morons.

They are not saying the'll give people more money. They are supporting a group of workers asking for an increase from their employer (as is their right under a free market).

We also have to factor in, making the poorest have more money doesn't automatically mean every gets more money.