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Toffeeslam
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Maybe not all but he is inferring it
https://resistinghate.org/tommy-robinson-and-his-hate-tweets/
What an utter bell, I would use stronger terms to describe this guy but risk a ban. He attacks complete and utter scum, illiterate mugs also the losers who failed in life.
Bet his never had a conversation with Muslim in his life.
The problem is that 84% of grooming gang members in the UK are Asian. The vast majority of whom identify as Muslim.
When you compare that to the percentage of Muslims in the UK population it becomes clear that there is a cultural issue.
What people are doing is writing off somebody’s position because of their character, and not the value in their position.
Child and female exploitation is a particular problem in Muslim communities. That is a fact backed up by evidence, whether you think Robinson is a scummer or not.
I don't know much about this story but if you say this 'claims all Muslims are complicit' then it suggests that you are stating a fact. If you say this 'Maybe not all but he is inferring it' then it suggests that you either are telling lies or twisting things to suit an agenda.
tsubaki
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The thing is its only a cultural issue because we select a narrow set of criteria in order to identify and present it as such.
Take this for example - its true that these scumbags went around targetting vulnerable girls; its also true that vulnerable girls (especially those in care in London) are targetted by gangs to deal drugs along county lines, to prostitute themselves, to carry weapons, to shoplift, to drink and take drugs and to generally waste their teenage years doing someone elses bidding.
One is national news and gets the attention of our MPs, the other one isn't news at all.
Aye. Whilst there's no denying that extreme elements of Islam view white girls as property, the key word is 'extreme' - it's a cultural issue but a relatively rare one - it's certainly unfair for a tosspot like Robinson to equate it to an entire religion with zero context.
A stat like "84% of people who commit this crime are Asian" sound atrocious but if the crime is rare in the first place - 222 people out of 264 arrested in this instance, when there's nearly one million overall arrests a year, 60,000 of those being Asian - then it's a misleading statistic.
Steve0
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Joking about something and hoping someone dies are two different things. The apparent contradiction simply isn't there. It's a bit desperate tbh.
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Or it’s showing up the massive edgelords to be just as delicate as the snowflakes they mock.
tsubaki
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Even that isn't true - there is no part of Islam that views white girls as property, infidelity / sex outside marriage is a considerable sin (in whatever form or sect you want to look at) and even slavery is something restricted to people conquered in war.
The fact that so many of the victims of this talked about taking drugs / getting drunk with the men involved should tell everyone this is not about religion, its about men targetting vulnerable women and it is our way of selecting what crimes are worth (or more correctly, worth not) reporting that creates the illusion that there is a crisis of Asian / Muslim men targetting young white girls.
LOL'ing hard at tommy rob, first the rs and now this, great stuff
It is true though - it's a twisted interpretation where they hold Islam as only applicable to Muslim women, and white women are disposable and essentially property to be used and thrown away.
https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gang-convictions-84-asian-say-researchers-11164589
Video halfway down by the CEO of the Ramadhan Foundation says it better than I probably am doing, but there's no doubt that elements of extreme Islam target white women specifically for abuse - that is undeniable, but what is deniable is the extent of it; because it's exceptionally rare and has been propagated by the likes of the Times and taken on by oxygen thieves like Robinson as being an endemic problem with the whole religion when it simply isn't.
EDIT: I know the source of that is controversial in its' own right, but I believe it to be true personally. It explains the high percentage of Asians committing the crime yet it being a rare crime in itself - because it's a fringe element of one religion committing it (although it could be argued that "grooming gangs" applies to Asians whereas "Pedophile Rings" apply to whites and that they should be interchangeable when discussing this topic.)
tsubaki
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That isn't in Islam though - to say "certain people have a twisted interpretation" of it is to not use the much more correct statement that they are wrong, just as they are wrong to think they can take drugs, drink alcohol and commit crime and still be true to the faith.
Also speaking of Robinson, they've partially lifted the reporting restrictions around his case - so it can now be revealed that he pled guilty to contempt of court and got thirteen months.
For extra comedy, see if you can see anything familiar in the first fifteen seconds of the accompanying video showing the crowd at the demo on Whitehall (to protest his just incarceration) this Saturday:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ive-video-stephen-yaxley-lennon-a8374121.html
flibbyflob
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I can't believe the amount of people who are saying he should be freed because he is only saying what we all think anyway.
A huge amount of ignorance and mis-information surrounding the Tommy Robinson jailing going around atm. Especially overseas, where they havent been exposed to this slimy little deviant before.
Free speech has nothing to do with the matter. He was arrested last year for interfering with an ongoing trial by filming at the courthouse and assuming the defendants guilt before a verdict.
He did it again, in breach of his suspended sentence and was locked up for it.
The Judge gagged the reporting to attempt to reduce the damage to an ongoing court case.
This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and his opinions, but to do with a vile little man trying to undermine our judiciary.
It also annoys me to see people discussing some of his opinions that they agree with.
If you know anything about him, his character, what he stands for and the type of person that typically supports him, you'd do well to distance yourself from any of his rhetoric.
Even if you do agree with some of his points regarding the issue of grooming gangs (a difficult subject for sure) there are plenty of people out there who will argue similar points but in an intelligent, educated and unbiased manner.
You don't need this racist, manipulative little weasel to back up your opinions.
/soapbox
Free speech has nothing to do with the matter. He was arrested last year for interfering with an ongoing trial by filming at the courthouse and assuming the defendants guilt before a verdict.
He did it again, in breach of his suspended sentence and was locked up for it.
The Judge gagged the reporting to attempt to reduce the damage to an ongoing court case.
This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and his opinions, but to do with a vile little man trying to undermine our judiciary.
It also annoys me to see people discussing some of his opinions that they agree with.
If you know anything about him, his character, what he stands for and the type of person that typically supports him, you'd do well to distance yourself from any of his rhetoric.
Even if you do agree with some of his points regarding the issue of grooming gangs (a difficult subject for sure) there are plenty of people out there who will argue similar points but in an intelligent, educated and unbiased manner.
You don't need this racist, manipulative little weasel to back up your opinions.
/soapbox
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