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[JimmyJeffers]

Honest mistake.

However what's the difference. One he helped load them on to the trucks and the other he confiscated their property.

He was still involved. He was still a collaborator.

In his own words it shaped his life and in his own words (yes I did just rewatch it) he felt no guilt.

Him being Jewish I find that both hard to believe and troubling. I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility that he has projected that guilt on to white people in general.

I may be wrong but there's no doubt his organizations have had a huge effect on European and US policy towards immigrants and that those policies have lead or will lead to white people becoming minorities in lands where they were overwhelmingly the majority.

Makes me wonder is that coincidence or by design.

Good grief

 

[LiamG]

I never said the interview was that, you did.

The stuff on the internet about him is. IUt has been proven to be mostly false and the sources of it have been proven to be the right wing element.

Also 60 mins admitted there was more to that interview they left out as all TV companies do.

Look his publicist and himself said he was confused not me. I can only take what he says at face value.

You have the right to disagree. But whats funny is you claim its propaganda. Some of the stuff including your exaggerated Soros remarks is exactly that.

I am not a mod so you would have to ask them the reasons for you ban.

I can only assume its your slightly extreme views on certain things.

Also i respect anyone's opinion but yours a lot of the time sounds like a sound bite from Fox or Brietbart (who you claim not to read or listen to). You call the media biased but you yourself are biased. It's hard to take someone "opinion" when it sounds like something of the TV that morning or night before or some agenda filled partisan crap. You then accuse everyone else of having a leftist agenda against you.

No a forum becomes propaganda if it bans people because they express a different opinion.

I'm not talking about the stuff on the internet. I know most of it is untrue but the 60 mins interview isn't fake news. You can watch it on youtube and it's pretty clear he wasn't confused and since when did a publicist become the ultimate arbitrator of opinion.

I didn't exaggerate anything. I made a mistake because I didn't google it before hand and it has been years since I saw it originally.

I haven't disputed that but it doesn't change my opinion because the details of what he did aren't what's important. What's important is that a) he was around when Nazis were sending fellow Jews to death camps and b) he collaborated with them, of course he was a child and of course I don't hold him to blame for that but I suspect even though he denies it he himself does.

Why do you constantly bring up Fox News or Breitbart. You know nothing about me. It's simply to attack me personally. I actually watch CNN more than Fox.

 

[LiamG]

Propaganda like:

Soros is an evil man who made money working for the Nazis to transport fellow Jews to concentration camps

???

It's dangerous propaganda being peddled by the likes of Coulter, Jones, Beck, Etc that you regurgitated on a football forum.

He also recently tried to crash the bank of china. He did crash the bank of England among others bringing or trying to bring financial hardship on to these people while profiting from it.

You are selectively quoting.

 

[ilikecheese]

To use this cheesy phrase.... When it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck..... right? Haha!!

I hardly ever say that...

 

[SteveSC]

No a forum becomes propaganda if it bans people because they express a different opinion.

I'm not talking about the stuff on the internet. I know most of it is untrue but the 60 mins interview isn't fake news. You can watch it on youtube and it's pretty clear he wasn't confused and since when did a publicist become the ultimate arbitrator of opinion.

I didn't exaggerate anything. I made a mistake because I didn't google it before hand and it has been years since I saw it originally.

I haven't disputed that but it doesn't change my opinion because the details of what he did aren't what's important. What's important is that a) he was around when Nazis were sending fellow Jews to death camps and b) he collaborated with them, of course he was a child and of course I don't hold him to blame for that but I suspect even though he denies it he himself does.

Why do you constantly bring up Fox News or Breitbart. You know nothing about me. It's simply to attack me personally. I actually watch CNN more than Fox.

Lad i am not a mod so i don't want to debate with you why you keep getting banned from threads... Ask a mod.

I never said 60 minutes was fake.... for the second time.... jesus wept.

How is it pointing out or observing something about you based on your posts an attack haha!! And you righties call us lefties snowflakes come on now. Also the fact you think someone saying you watch fox or read breitbart is an attack itself is hilarious haha!!

 

[LiamG]

A fear/dislike/intolerance of people with a different skin colour.

Total nonsense.

I do however want to know the reason people who are promoting immigrantion have for promoting immigration.

If it's just to help the poor and needy then that's fine and it may be that.

If it's because they want to replace the people already there then that's not in our interests.

Especially considering the power these people have over our politicians.

 

[roydo]

I didn't exaggerate anything.

Like, really? Folk like you. with an agenda, will seize any tiny/made up "fact" to propagate their agendas.

And as for being banned cos you have an opinion, eyewash. We will, and have, banned folk with extreme views on all sides of the political spectrum, after all, we are a football forum first and foremost.

What we wont accept is folk trying to press their opinions based on "honest mistakes" when we all know the tenor of your position.

 

[SteveSC]

I hardly ever say that...

Touche haha!!

 

[roydo]

If it's because they want to replace the people already there then that's not in our interests.

What? Like, seriously, what?

 

[LiamG]

Like, really? Folk like you. with an agenda, will seize any tiny/made up "fact" to propagate their agendas.

And as for being banned cos you have an opinion, eyewash. We will, and have, banned folk with extreme views on all sides of the political spectrum, after all, we are a football forum first and foremost.

What we wont accept is folk trying to press their opinions based on "honest mistakes" when we all know the tenor of your position.

There's no difference to what I originally said he did and what he did do. I wasn't trying to make it sound worse. It's just as bad if not worse, I'm not sure but did they profit from what he actually did?

In both cases he was a collaborator with the Nazis and involved with the holocaust. Is there a difference between driving the truck and rounding them up, what about making the lists etc. It was an error of detail nothing more.

 

[roydo]

There's no difference to what I originally said he did and what he did do. I wasn't trying to make it sound worse. It's just as bad if not worse, I'm not sure but did they profit from what he actually did?

In both cases he was a collaborator with the Nazis and involved with the holocaust. Is there a difference between driving the truck and rounding them up, what about making the lists etc. It was an error of detail nothing more.

Right. Had enough of you wriggling and trying to sound respectable. You are, imo, either a troll, a racist, or a fantasist. Lobbing those accusations around could cause us grief. So jog on.

Thread Banned.

 

[LiamG]

What? Like, seriously, what?

How is it in our interests to be replaced by other people?

Explain that to me.

 

[SteveSC]

There's no difference to what I originally said he did and what he did do. I wasn't trying to make it sound worse. It's just as bad if not worse, I'm not sure but did they profit from what he actually did?

Both he was a collaborator with the Nazis and involved with the holocaust. Is there a difference between driving the truck and rounding them up, what about making the lists etc. It was an error of detail nothing more.

NO, this is not true not even from the interview.

This is the excerpt from the interview you keep mentioning:

Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.”

Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

Soros: “No.”

Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“............

All he claims in the interview is he confiscated property. That's all you can take from it or attribute to him from that. How you end up with escorting or driving or rounding them up or making lists is beyond me.

Also if you are banging on about the memos he delivered to Jews who were next as the lists well then you accuracy is way off. Those memos were given to him by the Jewish council/committee and it was normal that young Jewish kids would deliver for the council/committee back then.

Again you are exaggerating it and you are spreading lies and propaganda. There is no mention of rounding them up or trucks or leading Jews to their death in the whole interview So to say it is all the same is a blatant falsehood.

 

[SteveSC]

Right. Had enough of you wriggling and trying to sound respectable. You are, imo, either a troll, a racist, or a fantasist. Lobbing those accusations around could cause us grief. So jog on.

Thread Banned.

Here here...

 

[roydo]

NO, this is not true not even from the interview.

This is the excerpt from the interview you keep mentioning:

Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.”

Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

Soros: “No.”

Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“............

All he claims in the interview is he confiscated property. That's all you can take from it or attribute to him from that. How you end up with escorting or driving or rounding them up or making lists is beyond me.

Also if you are banging on about the memos he delivered to Jews who were next as the lists well then you accuracy is way off. Those memos were given to him by the Jewish council/committee and it was normal that young Jewish kids would deliver for the council/committee back then.

Again you are exaggerating it and you are spreading lies and propaganda. There is no mention of rounding them up or trucks or leading Jews to their death in the whole interview So to say it is all the same is a blatant falsehood.