Current Affairs The Far Right

[sheedy3]

The sad fact nowadays is that the internerd is a very effective tool for degenerates of most oddball persuasions to make statements no matter how outlandish..case in point this "Britian first" circus....for the 2nd example we need not look further than across the Atlantic to another equally unhinged individual...its all about "tits n teeth" these days..."they will never remember what you said..its how you said it"

 

[dead_soft]

Exactly as Longers says. Google ads are based upon your own viewing history, not any tacit decision by either advertiser or publisher.

That is true, and it's not that Everton have purposefully put themselves on Breitbart BUT they pay to advertise through Google ads, and they can blacklist places they don't want their ads to be. Once they are aware of it, they should stop otherwise they are tacitly fine with advertising on right wing sites. They cannot survive without ad revenue that Everton and others are currently supplying them with.
That's the basis for groups like Sleeping Giants

 

[Rook]

 

[Number_25]

This is literally the far right in a nutshell.

Bad bunch of jarg Tory meffs.

 

[Rook]

 

[summerisle]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nazi-punch-antifa_us_59e13ae9e4b03a7be580ce6f

The Nazi-Puncher's Dilemma

WASHINGTON ― There is a growing desire in this country to punch Nazis in the face. At least, this is what I hear from people who punch Nazis in the face. Some gleefully send me videos of other people punching Nazis in the face, such as the one from September featuring a Nazi in Seattle who threw a banana at a man and, in return, ate a very professional right cross. The Nazi fell to the ground and lay there unconscious. When he came to, he removed his Nazi armband and shuffled off.

Anyone following the news knows who’s doing the bulk of this Nazi-punching: “antifa.” It’s an esoteric and often confounding term. Although short for “anti-fascist” — an expansive category that one would imagine includes millions of Americans — “antifa” has quickly come to connote a very specific stereotype: a black-clad, violent, leftist subversive.

Most Americans first learned about antifa in February, when what looked like a gang of ninjas set fires and broke windows to stop Milo Yiannopoulos, a race-baiting former Breitbart News editor, from speaking on the University of California, Berkeley campus, where he reportedly intended to out undocumented students. About a week after the deadly white supremacist riot in Charlottesville, Virginia, President Donald Trump seized on antifa as Exhibit A in his ongoing efforts to blame “both sides” for the violence. During a speech in Phoenix, Trump played up the word’s alien vibrations as if he were, to borrow a Trevor Noah joke, introducing a band at the Latin Grammys: “An-TEE-fa!”

Their notoriety may be new, but antifa have a long, complicated history of militant community activism. This history has involved a lot of Nazi-punching, but it’s also about much more than that. In the course of my reporting on the alt-right over the past year, I’ve talked to several older anti-fascists who have been doing the “work” for decades. They told me about pitched battles in the street with Nazis from another era, about raiding Klan rallies under cover of darkness, about cops in cahoots with white supremacists, and about Nazis torching the homes of activists and killing antifa in the desert. I heard about duffel bags filled with barbells and knives and a legendary anti-fascist who was attacked by a brass-knuckle-wielding Nazi and responded by breaking the fascist’s teeth with a Maglite flashlight. These exploits sounded fantastical, but when I looked into them, they were true.

The antifa vets were more strategic than I anticipated and obsessively knowledgeable about politics. They all had extreme personalities, although time had precipitated out a little of their tannin. Some had children and normal lives. The Maglite legend, I’d heard, was now a kids’ soccer coach. Still, they were tight-lipped about their activities, some of which were illegal, and were often misunderstood.

Anti-facism is a loose-knit, decentralized movement containing numerous organizations and ideologies that even insiders struggle to explain. For starters, not all people who identify as anti-fascists describe themselves as antifa. Most antifa are anarchists, but there are also socialists and communists, who divide further into Maoists, Marxists, Trotskyists and Stalinist “tankies.”

What unites them is a belief that dangerous elements of the far right must be driven from the public square, even if by force. And for two decades, beginning in the mid-1980s, that’s what antifa attempted to do, almost entirely out of the public eye. They put neo-Nazis and other white supremacists on their heels in cities and suburbs around the country, forcing many of them underground or into retreat. (Other contributing factors: litigation by civil rights organizations, the demise of key white supremacist leaders and law enforcement roundups.)

Over the past year, as fascists and racists have reemerged, emboldened by the rise of Trump, many old-school antifa have laced up their boots again. But now they find themselves facing a new enemy. The current crop of neo-Nazis and white nationalists prefers tattersall to tattoos and come off more like Young Republicans than Hammerskins. They are proficient in social media and online messaging, which presents a challenge for antifa used to fighting in the shadows.

“When you have Richard Spencer getting punched in the face, millions of people see it,” said Oren Segal, the director of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. Millions of people might also feel a pang of sympathy for Spencer. Others might use the video to demonize the left or justify a crackdown on public protest. In an age of insta-propaganda, it’s hard to know: Is punching Nazis actually helping the Nazis?

In Minneapolis, one bonehead set called the White Knights started beating up minority kids and menacing leftists in the punk rock crowd. It was stomp or get stomped, and a multiracial crew of “traditional” skins called the Baldies decided to fight back. The Baldies’ turf was the Uptown neighborhood. If the Baldies caught Nazis in Uptown, they’d tell them to leave. If the Nazis didn’t leave, the Baldies put a hurt on them. The White Knights cleared out of Uptown. Before long, they cleared out of Minneapolis.


The original Baldies in Minneapolis in the 1980s.
The ARA also pioneered a tactic known today as doxing — exposing fascists and racists in order to shame them in their communities. Back then, it was a lot more labor-intensive. “When you see someone passing out white supremacist flyers or not getting prosecuted for hate crimes, you dig deeper and try to find out who the person is,” explains an anti-fascist in western Pennsylvania with two decades of experience who goes by Lady. “We would make a list of their actions against our friends, neighbors and the community. We’d write it into a little story and put it on a flyer with a picture of them we’d usually have to snap ourselves. Then we’d walk around their community and put the flyer on light poles and cars. We’d usually call it something like, ‘Meet your neighborhood racist.’”

To ARA members, there was no point expecting help from the cops, many of whom antifa knew were themselves racist. And they dismissed liberals as the same kind of pearl-clutching appeasers who’d allowed Hitler and Mussolini to seize power in the 1930s. Antifa would go it alone. By 1998, ARA reportedly had more than 100 chapters and 2,000 members across North America, as well as several newspapers and a hotline to receive tips about white supremacists. Its policy on fascists was simple: Don’t allow white supremacists any platform to normalize a violent ideology. As Gerry Bello, a longtime member of Columbus ARA in Ohio, put it: “Hitler himself said the only way you could have beaten us if you’d smashed us off the street from the very first day and with the utmost brutality.”

These are fights involving weapons. Sometimes one of them will catch a right proper boot party. There’s quite a few times where if we wanted to put them in the morgue they would be in the morgue.
A large group of antifa turned into an alley. Chain-link fence on the left. Brick wall on the right. About 80 feet away down the alley was a cluster of Nazi skinheads. Antifa charged straight for them. A Nazi in a pickup came flying down the alley, according to newspaper accounts and two anti-fascists who were there. He hit two antifa, breaking a teenage girl’s arm and raking another person down the fence for 20 feet, then screeched out of the alley and bounced a girl as young as 8 off his bumper. To leave town, the white supremacists needed an armed escort from the police for almost a mile.

One ill-considered punch can now obscure the more meritorious blows. Already faded from collective memory are episodes like the one in Charlottesville when antifa fought off baton-wielding white supremacists who were about to attack a line of clergy. (“Antifa saved my life twice on Saturday,” said Rev. Seth Wispelwey, a local minister.) Far more potent are the viral videos, like the one of antifa in Berkeley flattening a MAGA bro. They allow conservatives to brand all antifa as dangerous extremists — in part to create a convenient alibi for their own more dangerous extremists.

Less than a week after antifa stepped in to protect clergy from violent fascists and white supremacists in Charlottesville, a White House petition was created to declare antifa a terrorist organization. It garnered hundreds of thousands of signatures within days. (The Department of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama had reportedly already classified antifa’s activities as “domestic terrorist violence.”)

You have to choose between what makes you feel better and what is actually right and effective.
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[Number_25]

My great grandfather used to shoot Nazis and got medals for doing so.

I see no problem in being intolerant of the intolerant.

 

[Number_25]

Can't we just put them in the bin?

 

[verreauxi]

Those piece of $h1t Trump-supporting neo-nazis want to rally in Charlottesville next year on the anniversary of the murder of Heather Heyer. The city said no but they plan to do it anyway.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/...latest&contentPlacement=5&pgtype=sectionfront

 

[summerisle]

Didn't know they had an army. Some of the worst Nazis (if that's not a contradiction in terms) were Austrian.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...rol-austrian-army-in-coalition-deal-00hdlmf8p

Far-right Freedom Party will control Austrian army in coalition deal.

A far-right party will be sworn in as a coalition partner in Austria today with a mission to curb migration into Europe as the new government faces accusations of racism and xenophobia.

The Freedom Party (FPO), led by Heinz-Christian Strache, has been given control of the foreign, interior and defence ministries in a reshuffle of top jobs by Sebastian Kurz, the new chancellor, whose conservatives won the election in October.

This will hand oversight of the army, police and intelligence services to the FPO, which signed a co-operation agreement last year with President Putin’s United Russia party and wants to lift EU sanctions imposed on Moscow after the annexation of Crimea.

At 31 Mr Kurz becomes the youngest elected leader in the world but he is already a seasoned politician, having been foreign minister since he was 27.

Despite the strong Euroscepticism of the Freedom Party Mr Kurz vowed to run a pro-EU administration and took control of European matters into his own office. His brand of pro-EU politics is focused on limiting the powers of Brussels, however, and he will be a barrier to the greater integration planned by President Macron of France. Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s National Front, who lost the presidential run-off in May, called the FPO’s success in Austria “excellent news for Europe”.

The new Austrian coalition, due to be sworn in by President Van der Bellen in Vienna today, was strongly criticised by Turkey yesterday for ruling out the prospect of it joining the EU. The 180-page government programme also vowed to cut payments to refugees, defend Austria’s borders and end illegal immigration.

The Freedom Party was founded in 1956 by former Nazi officers and led from 1986 to 2000 by Jörg Haider, who was notorious for praising Adolf Hitler’s “proper employment policies”. Mr Strache was detained by police in his youth at a torch-lit neo-Nazi demonstration, which he later dismissed as “stupid and naive”.

The last time the FPO joined an Austrian government, in 2000, the EU swiftly brought in diplomatic sanctions, although it dropped them within a year after they proved to be counterproductive. The FPO eventually crashed out of the government in 2005 after a split in the party.

Sebastian Kurz: The secret of his success.

Omer Celik, the Turkish EU affairs minister, tweeted that Mr Kurz’s administration had “started attacking fundamental democratic values without delay”. He accused Mr Kurz of being “even more radical than the far right” and branded the EU as weak for not condemning the “racist approaches” in the Austrian government programme.

Mr Kurz’s People’s Party (OVP) came top in an election dominated by immigration and integration after an influx of asylum seekers over the past two years. The Freedom Party came a close third behind the Social Democrats on 26 per cent of the vote.

Mr Kurz and Mr Strache, 48, presented their coalition agreement on Saturday at the Kahlenberg, a hill on the outskirts of the capital famed as the site of the 1683 Battle of Vienna, which ended a siege of the city by Ottoman Turks.

There was no specific mention of repelling the Muslim invasion but the symbolism was clear for two parties that have warned of Islamic “parallel societies” emerging in Austria.

“We both recognise about 75 per cent of ourselves in the programme,” said Mr Strache, who during the campaign accused Mr Kurz of stealing his party’s ideas. “That might have something to do with the fact that one or the other maybe took on the other’s policy points before the election.”

Mr Kurz’s OVP will have eight ministries including his office while the FPO will have six, including Mr Strache’s office as vice-chancellor.

The FPO-controlled interior ministry will introduce tougher minimum sentences for violence and sex crimes, put more police on the streets and make “fighting political Islam” a key objective.

New arrivals to Austria will be blocked from accessing many social services in their first five years in the country. Benefits for refugees will be cut and cash payments abolished to minimise “pull factors” seen as attracting immigrants to the country.

The government will introduce more Swiss-style “direct democracy” on national issues in line with FPO policy. Mr Kurz ruled out a referendum on Austria’s EU membership, however.

“We have agreed a clear pro-EU stance with the aim of boosting subsidiarity in the EU,” Mr Kurz said.

He favoured an EU that would be “stronger in big questions and which should step back on smaller issues”.

The FPO named a career diplomat and non-party member as foreign minister. Karin Kneissl, 52, a respected diplomat who speaks Arabic, Hebrew and Hungarian, shares many of its views, talking tough on immigration and the EU. She has called Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, boorish and arrogant.

The interior ministry will be led by Herbert Kickl, 49, the FPO’s general secretary since 2005, seen as the mastermind of the party’s rise. Mr Kickl was responsible for slogans such as “More courage for our Vienna blood”, described as xenophobic by opponents.

Mr Strache has vowed to start an inquiry into the objectivity of the national public broadcaster ORF.

Analysis

Austria’s Freedom Party will today become the only far-right party to hold power in a western European Union country after a year of rising support across the continent (David Charter writes).

Populists have performed well in France, the Netherlands and Germany where they also came third in recent elections and complicated the process of forming a coalition government.

The new chancellor Sebastian Kurz, who has steered his conservatives to the right, will ally himself with anti-immigrant and Eurosceptic populists in power in the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland.

This sets the scene for a showdown with President Macron of France, who wants to push through ambitious EU integration measures next year.

The Austrian government will be able to punch above its weight because it holds the six-month rotating presidency of the EU in the second half of next year. This means that Mr Kurz and his
far-right allies will be chairing meetings of EU ministers during a crucial phase of Brexit talks.

Heinz-Christian Strache, the Freedom Party leader, has called Brussels a “bureaucratic monster” and said that Britain will “probably be better off” after it leaves. He had to cede control over EU affairs to Mr Kurz in the coalition deal but the chancellor will be a powerful pragmatic force during the negotiations on future relations with Britain. Mr Kurz is no starry-eyed Europhile and will argue for the EU budget to be cut rather than replace the money lost after Brexit.

 

[Safc-mark-91]

Unfortunately there's rumours that the EDL will be holding a rally in Sunderland this weekend.

Not sure if it's true or not. That means, we'll have 'Tommy Robinson' (Stephen Lennon) lecturing us on immigration and Muslim grooming gangs. Probably means trouble too, so close to Xmas which we could really do without.

Just because a minority align themselves to the EDL - They seem to think they speak for all of us and the people of Sunderland, they certainly don't speak for me.

Of course, there's a case for a serious conversation about immigration and Islam extremists etc but the far-right take the argument, twist it, and then add half-truth's or completely fabricated statistics to fuel their hatred - It's sickening.

 

[COYBL25]

Unfortunately there's rumours that the EDL will be holding a rally in Sunderland this weekend.

Not sure if it's true or not. That means, we'll have 'Tommy Robinson' (Stephen Lennon) lecturing us on immigration and Muslim grooming gangs. Probably means trouble too, so close to Xmas which we could really do without.

Just because a minority align themselves to the EDL - They seem to think they speak for all of us and the people of Sunderland, they certainly don't speak for me.

Of course, there's a case for a serious conversation about immigration and Islam extremists etc but the far-right take the argument, twist it, and then add half-truth's or completely fabricated statistics to fuel their hatred - It's sickening.

There`ll be more Police than EDF mate, so I wouldn`t worry.

Plus people will be more concerned with finishing off their crimbo shopping, than giving those knobheads the time off day.

 

[Safc-mark-91]

There`ll be more Police than EDF mate, so I wouldn`t worry.

Plus people will be more concerned with finishing off their crimbo shopping, than giving those knobheads the time off day.

EDF? The energy company. They coming along too? (My phone also autospelled it EDF before I quickly edited it - So, jokes on me too lol)

You're right there mate. Knowing the type of folk who the EDL recruit, they'll probably turn up on the wrong day anyway! They'll probably go down our town centre on Boxing day in a gang of 6 shouting "we want our streets back" whilst their only companions is a stray dog and a blowing leaf. Completely oblivious to the fact the town is completely dead.

 

[COYBL25]

EDF? The energy company. They coming along too? (My phone also autospelled it EDF before I quickly edited it - So, jokes on me too lol)

You're right there mate. Knowing the type of folk who the EDL recruit, they'll probably turn up on the wrong day anyway! They'll probably go down our town centre on Boxing day in a gang of 6 shouting "we want our streets back" whilst their only companions is a stray dog and a blowing leaf. Completely oblivious to the fact the town is completely dead.

HaHaha, I didn`t look at what I was typing either lol

 

[Raphael_Hythloday]

The far left and the far right are the symptoms of stupidity. Both have more in common than either would acknowledge.

The left obsessed with identity groups and a hierarchy of victimhood; the right with Islam and national identity. Neither accept ideas from the opposite side and respond by behaving like children.

Fascists exist within the right and the left. The racists of the right are tokenistic with irony. Perhaps a greater worry is the references to "whiteness" and "blackness" from the left.

Both should be called what they are: racist.