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steveojcc said:
Oh look another post bashing the left and claiming the right are the advocates for the common man especially minorities. Jesus your one clueless lad.

Church is a group, the kkk are a group, the NRA is a group. All spout agendas and all have issues with parts of society. They tell you as much every time.

Sure blaming the left for things is blaming society and a group. I think you need to look up what both words mean.

Also you realise you are taking something Margaret Thatcher said (the highlighted) and claiming it to be your own thoughts, It's near verbatim.

"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."

I think it was an interview back in the 80's with a magazine. I recognised it the minute you said the highlighted from a passge in a book i was reading a while back quoting her.

In fact her phrase and belief struck a cord with several conservative Brits afterwards who wrote on her idea and elaborated their view.

I do not recall any american conservative with a similar belief or approach to it

And interestingly if you google the "there is no such thing as society she and British writers are the only one to have said that. So what conservatives other than Thatcher believes this? Do you have proof or can you cite references from American conservatives that that is their ideology or is it your own opinion.
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I was talking about ideology. In practice neither left or right wing politicians implement their ideology well and that's a problem caused largely by the need to amass votes.

What I am saying is right wing ideology mixed with something like a basic minimum wage could be the answer to solving the inequality problem and to allow the individual to take responsibility for their own lives and the societal benefit that creates.

A socialist system doesn't work.
 
LiamG said:
It's a famous quote. Thatcher was very popular here.
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But didn't you say you were an immigrant to the US yourself? Why not just say that again, instead of going with the shes popular here remark.

I mean it would have been my first answer.

Unless you lied then of course.
 
neil999 said:
Free market? So your ignoring the whole of the public sector then?
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The public sector should provide an outlet for social sciences degree holders that aren't particularly employable in the private sector?

No doubt there is some pretty natural destinations for these folks in government, but hopefully we're not "making space" for them, so to speak.
 
verreauxi said:
Are you really that petty that you take a swipe at what people studied in college.

Decided to edit to take out the ad hominem
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I'm not taking a swipe at it just to take a swipe at it.

I'm doing it for a reason. The universities are producing people that then act as drones to further the far left wing ideology of their professors and this ideology is destroying Western society. There's no diversity of ideas. It's nothing but indoctrination. They may as well be getting fed religious ideology.

Perhaps should read more about it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-social-science-politically-biased/
 
Pettifogger said:
The public sector should provide an outlet for social sciences degree holders that aren't particularly employable in the private sector?

No doubt there is some pretty natural destinations for these folks in government, but hopefully we're not "making space" for them, so to speak.
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No, their skillset would be used here
 
Thought this was about the far left not the well placed left?

There is a huge difference, them
Far left, try hard to as to be politically correct as possible to show off to their mates on Twitter is not what am about.

What I am about is social equality, and system that works for all.
 
LiamG said:
The universities are producing people that then act as drones to further the far left wing ideology of their professors and this ideology is destroying Western society. There's no diversity of ideas. It's nothing but indoctrination. They may as well be getting fed religious ideology.
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Oh my, you're a live one. That's precious. I was going to respond in earnest, but I can't. I just can't match that level of hyperbole. Instead, I'll respond at the same level--a level that matches your exaggerrated claims. How about this:

All conservatives are self-centered, selfish, money-seeking privileged philistines. Because of this, they don't seek to be university professors because that would involve dealing with facts (i.e., global warming) or decency (i.e., suggesting that brown skinned people should be treated equally). They don't become university professors because they are obssessed with making money and getting jobs that preserve their privileged status as white selfish people; then from these positions of wealth, they engage in behaviors that reinforce exclusivity, inequality, and disparity. Thus the university is not skewed left because of some left-wing indoctrination conspiracy, but because there are no conservative professors to hire--they all became bankers, stock-brokers, lawyers, or real estate owners who chose to put their own obsession with money and self above any career that would involve educating others.

How's that? Did I do well? "...destroying Western society" LOL.
 
LiamG said:
I'm not taking a swipe at it just to take a swipe at it.

I'm doing it for a reason. The universities are producing people that then act as drones to further the far left wing ideology of their professors and this ideology is destroying Western society. There's no diversity of ideas. It's nothing but indoctrination. They may as well be getting fed religious ideology.
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What on earth are you on about? So you are saying the top universities and colleges are being spoon fed by some mad left conspiracy.

To say universities don't teach ideas and broaden the minds of students to all forms of life is ridiculous and show how much of a tin foil wearing nut you are.

Maybe the students simply don't accept old school conservatism and don't want to be part of this new conservative lark that Trump and his backers are trying to convince us off. I bet some a lot of them don't agree with traditional liberal views either. Hence the Democratic party has become fractured just like the GOP.

Times are a changing my friend.

Maybe the students minds are being open to how much more there is out there.

You realise that most immigrants to this land would be liberal and progressive too. Be they educated or not. Why? because they expose themselves to more and don't get bogged down in traditional failing ideologies. Hence a lot of them left their homeland for greener pastures and to see what else they can achieve and what else they can learn and do.

Have you considered that its not some liberal thing but times are changing and kids have more progressive ideas and want to change how we approach things in general and how we treat people.

Universities are nothing but learning centers. There is no mad cult or liberal agenda there. You get to pick and choose what you want to study.

When a student learns a new science technique or how to build a robot to do a certain thing or learn a new way of cultivating land or whatever that is a progressive thing.

It's not because they wish to vote democrat and are being twisted to do so. It's because colleges are melting pots of ideas and all types of people from all walks of life.

So conservative raised people what do you think happens to them then at university?
 
Sir Alan said:
Thought this was about the far left not the well placed left?

There is a huge difference, them
Far left, try hard to as to be politically correct as possible to show off to their mates on Twitter is not what am about.

What I am about is social equality, and system that works for all.
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Unfortunately at least here in the US the far left are the ones in control even if its debatable they are the majority of the left.

It's also the direction the kids are going thanks to all their crazy uni courses teaching their rubbish in social studies classes.
 
verreauxi said:
Oh my, you're a live one. That's precious. I was going to respond in earnest, but I can't. I just can't match that level of hyperbole. Instead, I'll respond at the same level--a level that matches your exaggerrated claims. How about this:

All conservatives are self-centered, selfish, money-seeking privileged philistines. Because of this, they don't seek to be university professors because that would involve dealing with facts (i.e., global warming) or decency (i.e., suggesting that brown skinned people should be treated equally). They don't become university professors because they are obssessed with making money and getting jobs that preserve their privileged status as white selfish people; then from these positions of wealth, they engage in behaviors that reinforce exclusivity, inequality, and disparity. Thus the university is not skewed left because of some left-wing indoctrination conspiracy, but because there are no conservative professors to hire--they all became bankers, stock-brokers, lawyers, or real estate owners who chose to put their own obsession with money and self above any career that would involve educating others.

How's that? Did I do well? "...destroying Western society" LOL.
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Find that opinion in "Scientific American" and I will consider it.
 
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