I meant mystery investors because I know the likes of Robert Earl don't contribute to player signings.
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I meant mystery investors because I know the likes of Robert Earl don't contribute to player signings.
Les D
Player Valuation: £500k
My impression, for a number of years now, has been 'Everton Football Clubs' expenditure is from whatever has been 'reeled in' from elsewhere. As captain Napoleon Phil has said, we have to sell, to buy.
Why? Because Bill & his minions aren't prepared to finance the club with their own money.
You could say that about anything though.
If I say 'Jesus Christ, Moyes drop fecking Anichebe already' I know both that he's not actually going to and that I couldn't do his job half as well as he can even if he did start listening to my advice.
If I say 'Starsailor can't write songs for ****', I'm not expecting them to suddenly go, 'you know what, fellers? he's bloody right' and quit and have all their fans start asking me for tunes instead.
If I say 'christ, the weathers **** today', I'm not expecting God to suddenly go 'What do you know, so it is mate. Here have a bit of sunshine on the western coast for a change. It's on me marra'.
When I call Stan Collymore a woman beating, idiotic ****head who knows less about football then my left bollock, I don't do it in the expectation that his bosses will suddenly agree with me and fire him, but just because he is a woman beating iditoic ****head.
We're fans because we care about Everton. And that means we voice opinions on things we can't change.
"**** Line up," we say. "Cracking buy, that," we say. "We're going to get ****ing cheesed," we say. "Anichebe is awful," we say. "Our board are incompetant tits," we say. None of it will make a difference to how the club performs but talking about it uses up a few more of those lonely hours before our deaths.
None of that means we think we could do a better job than the board, or indeed Anichebe for that matter. Anymore than I think I could write better songs than starsailor (I can't, that's why I didn't become a song writer), or run the country better than cameron or cook better than KFC or make better weather than god. I just think the existing service is substandard.
But saying that I should only complain about things that I can personally change is really odd. Surely if I could change something, I just would? I wouldn't waste my breath complaining about it. You only complain about things you can't change because otherwise what's the point. "I wish I could get up and walk over to that bus stop, oh wait I just have, never mind."
Sharpys top lip
Player Valuation: £60m
Without doubt we have been the most unprofessionally run club in this country ever since the summer after the cup final where we had no investment until after Lescott's sale, we were going good until then with two good players coming in every window. But that's gone down the window and now the club has stood still because of no action taken by the board to improve the squad through investment with their own cash, simply not good enough
Phenom
Player Valuation: £70m
Bill?
Nordecke
Player Valuation: £35m
It's_Just_Not_Cricket
Player Valuation: £8m
Portsmouth? Crystal Palace? Darlington? Chester? Bournemouth? Stockport? All these lids went in to adminsistration since then...
yes, but they did not have kenwrong in charge nor were they called everton, thus ruling them out of the running.
Are you talking about David Conn and his annual look at Premier League finances? I just read through the article on the Guardian and looked at the data he's collected. Compared to some clubs, Everton are doing pretty well.
As to the question of owner funding, I would never require an owner to fund transfers and wage bills out of his own pocket (although I would love it if he did). The return on investment for that is almost nothing. Some of those ownership funds were just a symptom of relegation and promotion (i.e. funding the club for a year or two until you get the big Premier League payday). I would think, however, that providing funds to increase the permanent revenue of the club would be a great thing for both the owners, club, and supporters. Talking about stadium improvements and things like that.
In the end, Everton must be self-sufficient. We pushed our wage bill a little higher this past year, hoping to make a run at Europe and the FA cup but it hasn't worked out. Continuing to do so would be a risk. Everton are more than capable of competing in the Premier League given our revenue but we need to reign it in a bit since we can't rely on BK to back us up financially.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to teams like ManCity and Chelsea when financial fair play starts. ManCity have already stated that they won't be spending as much this summer in preparation for that. Personally I think one or both may be removed from European competitions in 2014-2015. I believe that's when it kicks in.
As to the question of owner funding, I would never require an owner to fund transfers and wage bills out of his own pocket (although I would love it if he did). The return on investment for that is almost nothing. Some of those ownership funds were just a symptom of relegation and promotion (i.e. funding the club for a year or two until you get the big Premier League payday). I would think, however, that providing funds to increase the permanent revenue of the club would be a great thing for both the owners, club, and supporters. Talking about stadium improvements and things like that.
In the end, Everton must be self-sufficient. We pushed our wage bill a little higher this past year, hoping to make a run at Europe and the FA cup but it hasn't worked out. Continuing to do so would be a risk. Everton are more than capable of competing in the Premier League given our revenue but we need to reign it in a bit since we can't rely on BK to back us up financially.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to teams like ManCity and Chelsea when financial fair play starts. ManCity have already stated that they won't be spending as much this summer in preparation for that. Personally I think one or both may be removed from European competitions in 2014-2015. I believe that's when it kicks in.
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BlackToffee
Guest
Not absolutely correct, he hasn't invested any money beyond his initial takeover of shares from Johnson. Slightly changes the indignation went you're in possession of the right information and context He wasn't given Everton as a freeby.
My post might be helpful
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/35560-Premier-league-club-debts-losses-the-facts
If not, you can go directly to the source yourself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ces-black-hole
Every little helps.
Chang Elephant
Forum God
That's incitement m8 - but well said, I'm off to bury a hammer into Kenwright's head.
I understand that we are not doing particularly bad in terms of debt and profits, but we need investment in the squad or we will fall behind again after these years of steady progress, which would make just being profitable pointless as we the fans are not the ones who make these profits, we contribute to them and in return we want to see investment and a successful team, I understand we can't be regularly buying players for 20 mil but a steady investment each window on top of the talent we have got already would keep us in and around the top six and it's not happening despite all these big chang and kitbag sponsorship deals in which elstone promised would help with improving our playing staff, it's frustrating to say the least.
Chang Elephant
Forum God
He privately purchased shares. That is not investment into the club. If you're post suggests anything different it's as helpful as dog****.
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