The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%

  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%
  • Total voters
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BoysInBlue said:
Sometimes I think the wrong 'bad guy' so to speak is being focus on, and that other board members get away with murder.

Look at it like this.

Carter owns 2% and is an irrelevance. If the club were sold for £150m as per BK's reported pricetag (just for post's sake), he'd make £3m.

Jon Woods, the mysterious muzzyed man who very few know much about, owns 19%, a significant amount, and he'd make £28.5m for his shares.

The key person who people should focus on is Robert Earl - 23%. He'd make £34.5m for his shares, a profit of approx £11.5m on his original purchase. This man has been to Goodison a handful of times for a match in the last 5 years. What does he do for the club? Other club's directors work hard for the club, bring deals and people to the table constantly, and are highly visible figures. Earl - a man who has been made bankrupt TWICE in his life (once can happen to anyone, but twice is clearly a sign of someone who doesn't learn from mistakes) - was brought into the club by Kenwright. Is this the right sort of person to be owning nearly a quarter of the club? And people claim that Kenwright would never sell to the wrong person. An argument can easily be made that the 'wrong type of person' has already been brought in by him.

Kenwright owns 25% and stands to make £37.5m from any sale, a personal profit of £17.5m for his efforts.

If Earl were to be forced out and sold his 23% independently of Kenwright & the board, and the person buying wasn't a fan of BK and the board, what would happen? That would be interesting. A board of BK & Woods & Carter alone would only own 46% of the club, so theoretically, the power would lie with the new purchaser of Earl's shares and the rest of the shareholders (if mobilised to support him). Even if they weren't, what if the new buyer was able to get the extra 2-3% of shares needed to gain the controlling interest of the club? Kenwright's power would be greatly lessened, and his inflated pricetag for his shares would be greatly dropped.

Interesting scenario, which makes me wonder why Earl isn't focused on instead of Kenwright. There are other ways to cause Kenwright's departure from the club than focusing on him. Maybe if people focused on someone who definitely wasn't a 'boyhood blue' things might change.
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Good post mate. I've always thought that the best way of hurting this regime is to press on the raw nerve. That has to be the seedy Earl and "his" ownership vehicle that's cast in the shadows of an offshore trust. There's no proof that he's a proxy for Green, though it's long been suspected given the words of Green regarding helping Kenwright out and the obvious interest he takes from afar in the club's ownership issues. There's just too many stories knocking about concerning an ex-CEO of the club being carpetted on more than one occasion by this feller, and the way Kenwright leaps to his defence when confronted on his association with Everton strongly suggests he's financially involved. The issue of shadow directors is taken very seriously and pressure on the Premier League and government helped Leeds fans clarify exactly who was behind the offshore trust controlling them.

In short, the attack should be focussed on going after Earl/Green - something the feller who's job it is to take the flak (Kenwright) would hate - and lobbying journalists/the Premier League/politicians to launch an investigation into exactly who owns Everton. At the very least it woud be extremely uncomfortable for the people owning the club and might make them think twice about holding out for a mega payout sometime down the road.
 
BoysInBlue said:
Sometimes I think the wrong 'bad guy' so to speak is being focus on, and that other board members get away with murder.

Look at it like this.

Carter owns 2% and is an irrelevance. If the club were sold for £150m as per BK's reported pricetag (just for post's sake), he'd make £3m.

Jon Woods, the mysterious muzzyed man who very few know much about, owns 19%, a significant amount, and he'd make £28.5m for his shares.

The key person who people should focus on is Robert Earl - 23%. He'd make £34.5m for his shares, a profit of approx £11.5m on his original purchase. This man has been to Goodison a handful of times for a match in the last 5 years. What does he do for the club? Other club's directors work hard for the club, bring deals and people to the table constantly, and are highly visible figures. Earl - a man who has been made bankrupt TWICE in his life (once can happen to anyone, but twice is clearly a sign of someone who doesn't learn from mistakes) - was brought into the club by Kenwright. Is this the right sort of person to be owning nearly a quarter of the club? And people claim that Kenwright would never sell to the wrong person. An argument can easily be made that the 'wrong type of person' has already been brought in by him.

Kenwright owns 25% and stands to make £37.5m from any sale, a personal profit of £17.5m for his efforts.

If Earl were to be forced out and sold his 23% independently of Kenwright & the board, and the person buying wasn't a fan of BK and the board, what would happen? That would be interesting. A board of BK & Woods & Carter alone would only own 46% of the club, so theoretically, the power would lie with the new purchaser of Earl's shares and the rest of the shareholders (if mobilised to support him). Even if they weren't, what if the new buyer was able to get the extra 2-3% of shares needed to gain the controlling interest of the club? Kenwright's power would be greatly lessened, and his inflated pricetag for his shares would be greatly dropped.

Interesting scenario, which makes me wonder why Earl isn't focused on instead of Kenwright. There are other ways to cause Kenwright's departure from the club than focusing on him. Maybe if people focused on someone who definitely wasn't a 'boyhood blue' things might change.
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boom!

Said it for quite sometime that is the wizard behind the curtain.

Problem is, he lives in the states, bill doesn't so he gets it.
 
It's so easy to forget that earl has such a large stake in the club. I suppose it's because Kenwright is chairman and publicly makes the decisions etc that he cops the flak, much like Davek said. I'm definitely not a Kenwright supporter, but everytime i'm reminded that 23% of the club is owned by Earl, it makes me wonder why its so easy to forget that we have such a large shareholder who offers absolutely nothing at all to the club, someone who is a greater poison than Blue Bill imo.
 
Saliba said:
It's so easy to forget that earl has such a large stake in the club. I suppose it's because Kenwright is chairman and publicly makes the decisions etc that he cops the flak, much like Davek said. I'm definitely not a Kenwright supporter, but everytime i'm reminded that 23% of the club is owned by Earl, it makes me wonder why its so easy to forget that we have such a large shareholder who offers absolutely nothing at all to the club, someone who is a greater poison than Blue Bill imo.
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Earl is bad but kenrite lies to the fans constantly and shows us no respect his downfall is his gob.
 
tommye said:
not asking for it to be repeated to me. Read what i said. I am only one of many many thousands of blues. Not everybody uses this or any other forum but rely on what the OS tell them. It's about proving it to the many many thousands who don't know any different.
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Tommy...you said...."BU have proof of the claims they make, which I'm not denying or agreeing with because i haven't seen anything one way or the other".

Most of their claims relate to general and specific mismanagement aka complete **** ups - just surprised you haven't seen anything that would allow you to assess these claims one way or another.
 
maby its time to get the flags/Banners Out.(Board Out) put him under pressure alot more,with most games being highlighted on the television.
 
Carl Hankin said:
maby its time to get the flags/Banners Out.(Board Out) put him under pressure alot more,with most games being highlighted on the television.
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Would do but u get launched out the ground pretty quick for it, away games you can get away with it, but if there was many people doing it at home it would be hard to do that
 
The bu have been caught in the act here,and following their denial statement it's a very sad indictment on their behalf.
This is a classic example of the kettle calling the pot black,and does nothing to allay the mistrust that a lot of Evertonians have in the bu.
 
tsdoddy said:
Would do but u get launched out the ground pretty quick for it, away games you can get away with it, but if there was many people doing it at home it would be hard to do that
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wow,thats pathetic..i guess we just wait until our club is destroyed then,because all these posts,rants,songs outside the ground are getting no were. just like this new scheme to have evertonians get in debt by helping out a club thats run by money greedy ********s that dont give a ****. i guess we will be a club that relys on barkley to sell for 20+ and rodwell. were ****ed. and spurs wednesday will show us up.
 
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