everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
He was probably crapping himself in fear at an away derby game. I usually am too. I have long wanted them banned with the result decided by the toss of a coin. Much fairer way of doing it.
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You're forgetting the key fact...this is Everton we're talking about here, theres always hope its just of the 'jam tomorrow' variety. Justlike every team says - were 3 players away from a good team.
Hope is the worst thing you can have, as they say - 'It's the hope that kills you'
The rs this year is our year blind faith may be better, then you can play the victim and blame everybodyelse for being gash...but who wants to go down that road.
I'll rather stick with my pessimistic bitter cynicism thanks very much - and blame kenwright
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Some dramatic posts in this thread in terms of 'has any club had it worse than us' in recent times. Sunderland have just suffered a double relegation, thanks to a home defeat in the last minute against Burton Albion. They went almost a year without winning a single home game too.
We've just had a few European trips as recent as this season and only lost 2 home games last season.
I appreciate it's awful for us in relative terms this season, especially with the expectation from the summer but to say we've had it worse than loads of other clubs is ridiculous.
Southampton were 3 points off a CL place 2 seasons ago and are now about to be relegated. We are a single place below where we finished last season, despite having an awful season.
We've just had a few European trips as recent as this season and only lost 2 home games last season.
I appreciate it's awful for us in relative terms this season, especially with the expectation from the summer but to say we've had it worse than loads of other clubs is ridiculous.
Southampton were 3 points off a CL place 2 seasons ago and are now about to be relegated. We are a single place below where we finished last season, despite having an awful season.
If Allardyce is still in charge next year I think this will be the first time I've ever gone into a new season with no real hope or belief. I was a kid really when we were really bad so you just have the natural hope from the naivety of youth, and for the last 15 years or so I've gone into every season genuinely believing that we could trouble the top 4/win a cup. Not that we would, just that with a fair wind and whatever, it was possible.
I said at the time, the appointment of Allardyce was very worrying for me in terms of what it signified - that we were content to just stay in the league and forfeit cups, because that's what he does - and our performances and his comments since he came in have proved to be exactly as I feared they would. If we don't get rid of him and bring in someone who wants to actually take us places, I honestly don't know if I can be bothered with the club anymore.
Everton has been a big part of my life for a long time, but I hope that the powers that be realise it's not my whole life. If i'm not enjoying it (and i'm not), and I can't see a point when i'm going to start enjoying it again, then I really could just walk away. I debated not renewing my season ticket this time but gave them the benefit of the doubt, I'm not sure I could justify it again this time next year. If I feel like that, so must thousands of others. It's a dangerous game to be playing when you're planning to build an expensive new stadium in my opinion.
I said at the time, the appointment of Allardyce was very worrying for me in terms of what it signified - that we were content to just stay in the league and forfeit cups, because that's what he does - and our performances and his comments since he came in have proved to be exactly as I feared they would. If we don't get rid of him and bring in someone who wants to actually take us places, I honestly don't know if I can be bothered with the club anymore.
Everton has been a big part of my life for a long time, but I hope that the powers that be realise it's not my whole life. If i'm not enjoying it (and i'm not), and I can't see a point when i'm going to start enjoying it again, then I really could just walk away. I debated not renewing my season ticket this time but gave them the benefit of the doubt, I'm not sure I could justify it again this time next year. If I feel like that, so must thousands of others. It's a dangerous game to be playing when you're planning to build an expensive new stadium in my opinion.
You make a fair point about those who have it much worse than us, but it's all relative I suppose.
There's not many teams who will have gone 8 years without beating their biggest rivals, or who have to see those rivals scoring 5 goals in a CL semi-final to put one foot in their 3rd final in the last 14 years when we've only reached the final of ANY competition 3 times in 30 years, or who have only really given their fans one big away day to shout about in the last 20 years or so. We certainly don't have it as bad as fans who are fighting for the very survival of their club etc, but we've become so unbelievably average that it hurts. When you think back of how many days you've had where you've thought 'what a great day to be an Everton fan', it's really not very many at all. After a while, that really gets to you I think.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Agree with this. It would be quite hard for the fanbase to take that we could muscle in on the top 6 with the limited financial backing of Kenwright, (which I think was 18th of the 20 clubs at one point), to now be settling for Sam Allardyce next season when we have a Billionaire owner who was supposed to be taking us forward.
As for your last point, I understand what you're saying, and no one has to turn up if they don't want to anymore, but for a lot of us it's just something we've always done. I know you have for your life too, but I'm different in that I wouldn't want to give it up as a result of the frustration. I started going in the mid-late 90's so feel like times have been worse than this, with less hope and a worse squad.
Been a pathetic season though.
LydiateLee
Player Valuation: £8m
I completely get the OP's point.
As a season ticket holder since 1994 NEVER has the feeling around our club been so apathetic. Yes we have had worse sides, MUCH WORSE, but it was never like this. Goodison is like a morgue, nobody cares.
For me we have suffered one disappointment too many.
I remember walking out of Wembley 2 years ago after Martial had killed our hopes of the FA Cup with another flukey last minute winner. There was a fella in his mid-thirties literally sobbing saying "Why do things never go our way?"
Since then we have had the hope of Moshiri's millions be completely ruined by incompetence.
The team on the pitch is full of sub-standard youngsters, good players past their best or utter dross. The team on the sidelines needs no further words from me.
I don't see how this gets better quickly but I miss my club, I miss feeling like Everton.
As a season ticket holder since 1994 NEVER has the feeling around our club been so apathetic. Yes we have had worse sides, MUCH WORSE, but it was never like this. Goodison is like a morgue, nobody cares.
For me we have suffered one disappointment too many.
I remember walking out of Wembley 2 years ago after Martial had killed our hopes of the FA Cup with another flukey last minute winner. There was a fella in his mid-thirties literally sobbing saying "Why do things never go our way?"
Since then we have had the hope of Moshiri's millions be completely ruined by incompetence.
The team on the pitch is full of sub-standard youngsters, good players past their best or utter dross. The team on the sidelines needs no further words from me.
I don't see how this gets better quickly but I miss my club, I miss feeling like Everton.
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Should have been mentioned already, however, I’m not reading 10 pages of lots entitlement to find out-
Sick jokes, You know nothing danyyboy!
http://www.skysports.com/football/everton-vs-wimbledon-fc/276114
As for those who chanted we are F'in rich, when Mosh stepped in, never been so much embarrassed as they evidently believed it, hence this come down with reality. This club won’t be going anywhere far until the new stadium is built, end of.
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TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Definitely see what you are saying there. I think there are only a few clubs in European Football who have it as bad as we do in terms of underwhelming seasons for their own club, in direct contrast to their derby rival.
I imagine it must be difficult for West Ham fans in London in that regard. But it's a bit different with them as their main rivals are Millwall so the fact Arsenal and Chelsea have won things recently doesn't crush them like it does with us when the RS win things/perform well.
Must have been difficult for Man City years ago as well. Looks like we've taken over from them in becoming the joke of the North West 'Big 4'.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
A tsunami of despondent desolation has swamped Everton...that witch doctor has a lot to answer for!
Fair points.
BernieH
Player Valuation: £35m
Just bored,that's the way to describe it. it's got to the point where I'm not bothered if i miss a game. I've had the enthusiasm sucked out of me. What can we do though, the it's hard to just stop following Everton, in fact it's impossible it's why we all keep coming back for more.
There's other Clubs who've had it worse than us though, we've never been a yoyo club we've just always fell short of dining at the top table in the Premier League Era, once Moyes established us as best of the rest and we actually went into seasons not worrying about relegation. I know which i'd prefer though.
I used to at least enjoy finishing between 5th n 8th every season when we knew we didn't have the finances to compete with Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal and the RS. We got frustrated about the perception of us being little old Everton but even those days seem a mile away from the dire laughing stock we seem to have become.
Bored, Bored, Bored, Bored.
There's other Clubs who've had it worse than us though, we've never been a yoyo club we've just always fell short of dining at the top table in the Premier League Era, once Moyes established us as best of the rest and we actually went into seasons not worrying about relegation. I know which i'd prefer though.
I used to at least enjoy finishing between 5th n 8th every season when we knew we didn't have the finances to compete with Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal and the RS. We got frustrated about the perception of us being little old Everton but even those days seem a mile away from the dire laughing stock we seem to have become.
Bored, Bored, Bored, Bored.
Jeez I'd forgotten who our subs were
Barlow AND Angell
Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £80m
To be fair, we are only 11 new players and a decent coach away from winning something too.
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