The Crowd

HongKongToffee · December 12, 2018

Anyone see that livid fan in the corner on 83 minutes.

I saw it on Twitter, He looked like he was going to self implode.

summerisle · December 12, 2018

Gareth Gibson · December 12, 2018

gorgeousgeorgeEFC said:
The atmosphere at Goodison is embarrassing. The only time we make any noise is when we're abusing our own players. Barkley and Stones used to be the scapegoats; now it's Keane and Coleman.

We used to be like a 12 man but nowadays we do more to help the opposition than our own team.

It wasn't as bad as this when we were fighting relegation during the days of Walker, Kendall Mk III and Walter Smith.

Our fans did target Stones and Barkley for abuse but I don't think that was the main reason for them leaving.

They left because we've only won one trophy in the last 30 years.

Gareth Gibson · December 12, 2018

I'm old enough to remember when the Goodison crowd was like a 12th man.

The first couple of years of Kendall's successful first spell in charge were actually really bad. We were crap. But the fans stuck with the team and we eventually came good. After the Bayern game at Goodison, Kendall said that it felt like the fans in the Gwladys Street End had “sucked the ball into the Bayern net.”

At the end of the day, abusing our own players is not going to imbue them with confidence and make them play better. Quite the opposite.

Gareth Gibson · December 12, 2018

efcforever said:
I do wonder if the players sometimes think 'I'm really trying and the fans just keep booing, why should I bother?!'.

Yes they are professionals and earn alot of money but as you say, they are only human.

That's what I'd be thinking if I were them.

Zezti · December 12, 2018

I blame the entitled millenials thinking we're simply owed wins at home.

zook · December 12, 2018

When we were utterly crap last season I'd watch most teams and be jealous that they play actual football, but now I watch and envy the fact that most teams have some form of atmosphere with people on their feet making a bit of noise

gorgeousgeorgeEFC · December 13, 2018

Gareth Gibson said:
At the end of the day, abusing our own players is not going to imbue them with confidence and make them play better. Quite the opposite.

My sentiments exactly.

MikeH72 · December 13, 2018

dannyboy said:
I wasn't being obtuse, just hard for me to tell from the Internet stream. Probably void my right to an opinion on this topic with that comment.

It wasn’t even slightly loud mate.

evertonandchelmsford · December 13, 2018

I couldn't make it on Monday so watched at home but it was silent the whole game. I can understand if we get off to a bad start then it might go quiet after a while but there's no atmosphere from the first minute. That's not a reaction to how we're playing because the games only just started.

There are several teams that do make a decent amount of noise at home but a lot of them use a drum so it doesn't count.

GwladysPhil · December 13, 2018

Tigger said:
Now we are getting somewhere, this is change. Thanks for your honesty Phil, you are a beacon of hope.

I can't do this alone Tigger.

dannyboy · December 13, 2018

At least when we're having a go at our own players there's noise. The fact 40,000 people can be so quiet is unnerving.

Amazing we have maintained a good home record over recent years with the atmosphere the way it is.

Frang · December 13, 2018

Imagine if the members of GOT all had part of a stand to sit in together.

Let the mayhem insue

MikeH72 · December 13, 2018

dannyboy said:
At least when we're having a go at our own players there's noise. The fact 40,000 people can be so quiet is unnerving.

Amazing we have maintained a good home record over recent years with the atmosphere the way it is.

The funny thing is the atmosphere would've been miles worse and more stale if we'd just won 2-0 or something. You only have to look at the crowd's response to actually taking the lead, half-arsed cheers for 20 seconds and then not a flicker of anything for the next 20 minutes. People will have you believe it's all reaction to a poor performance though.

Charro · December 13, 2018

mikeh72 said:
The funny thing is the atmosphere would've been miles worse and more stale if we'd just won 2-0 or something. You only have to look at the crowd's response to actually taking the lead, half-arsed cheers for 20 seconds and then not a flicker of anything for the next 20 minutes. People will have you believe it's all reaction to a poor performance though.

Take it you created absolute scenes when we went 1-0 up against Watford?