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[Blues Harp]

New moniker for the pandemic masquerading as the pm.... Borovirus. Quarantine for 5 years.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

It is well known on whitehall what she is like. She has done it to too many people.

The HO atmosphere is toxic.

Going rouge with Israel was a line crossed she should have never been allowed to recover from. She is typical of British cronyism/nepotism...

Patel will be lightning rod for a while until her position becomes untenable and there are only so many women out their willing to get pregnant by Johnson, so they can't keep using the children as an excuse.

Is Johnson six known children now in the public domain and up for public debate?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

How exactly. If Patel has been bullying staff she should be sacked. If Bercow has bullied staff he should get nowhere near the HoL. My comment related to Labour politicians defending one and proposing him to the HoL while calling for the head of the other purely for political reasons....

These rumours have circulated for some years, the alleged victims had plenty of opportunity to invoke procedures against the former speaker at the time when he was in office. It's curious why they have never been made official.

Rumour sufficed for a political agenda against the former speaker. Where full and proper due process is now being implemented against Patel and her management staff.

 

[Charro]

Well i work in the HO and she’s just sent a email to the whole department that very much reads like she’s been told off but it’s business as usual.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I have no time for people who don’t do what they said they would. The CS don’t really care who is in government, red or blue, they just do what they damn well please and if they screw it up just get on the merry go round and take up a job in a different dept and do exactly the same again. It’s about time that the CS faced accountability, which every other job, including politicians face. I honestly don’t give a damn about who is in power or that Patel is in charge, my whole professional life has been about delivering and getting shut of wasters like this guy, that’s why I’m upset, nothing political, just professional.....

This is an odd statement for a Tory and particularly a Boris Johnson fan

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not really, but we do have Diane Abbott defending a bully in the the shape of John Bercow and her boss attempting to get the same bully put into the House of Lords. So it’s quite hard to take anything they say in this matter seriously....if both the CS and Labour are trying to get Patel sacked then she must be doing something right.....

This is a complete fallacy.

 

[peteblue]

This is an odd statement for a Tory and particularly a Boris Johnson fan

No it’s not. Anyone who actually knows me knows that I will not tolerate non delivery on a promise....

 

[Jebus_lives]

No it’s not. Anyone who actually knows me knows that I will not tolerate non delivery on a promise....

You were championing Johnson as PM. I think it's safe to say the above statement lacks some credibility.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

No it’s not. Anyone who actually knows me knows that I will not tolerate non delivery on a promise....

You’ll be fuming that he’s not delivered on the increase of the higher rate tax level from £50k to £80k that he promised members like you to gain their votes in the leadership election then?

 

[peteblue]

You’ll be fuming that he’s not delivered on the increase of the higher rate tax level from £50k to £80k that he promised members like you to gain their votes in the leadership election then?

I’m not a member and minor changes in tax rates do not interest me.....

 

[peteblue]

You were championing Johnson as PM. I think it's safe to say the above statement lacks some credibility.

Of course, I think he is the best person to lead the country at this particular time.......

 

[Jebus_lives]

Of course, I think he is the best person to lead the country at this particular time.......

Despite his well documented catalogue of broken promises?

Even Johnson would be laughing at the suggestion he does the things he said he will. It's part of his schtick. Let's not pretend otherwise.

 

[Harryflashman]

No it’s not. Anyone who actually knows me knows that I will not tolerate non delivery on a promise....

I can only imagine just how angry you are right about now with Johnson as PM , So did you go labour or or Lib Dem ? No way you’d tolerate anyone who consistently failed to deliver on a string Of Promises this long .


Promise made: Boris Johnson won the race for the Conservative party leadership on a promise to "get Brexit done" by October 31st. Johnson described the pledge as "do or die" and said there "were no circumstances" in which his government would allow Brexit to be delayed for a third time, with aides even briefing that he would risk arrest rather than let it happen.
Promise broken: The United Kingdom did not leave on October 31 after Johnson wrote to the EU requesting another three-month delay. He blamed Parliament for forcing him to delay.


Promise made: Boris Johnson's bid for the leadership was successful thanks to him gaining the support of many centre-ground Conservative MPs who might otherwise have voted against his leadership. Central to that success was his promise at a meeting of the "One nation" group of MPs, that he would not suspend, or "prorogue" Parliament in order to force through Brexit.

"I would like to make it absolutely clear that I am not attracted to arcane procedures such as the prorogation of parliament," he told the MPs.
Promise broken: Boris Johnson prorogued parliament for the longest period ever in the modern era. His decision was subsequently overturned by the Supreme Court, which ruled it illegal.



Promise made:The Conservative campaign manifesto promises that Johnson will build "40 new hospitals."

Promise broken: However, this pledge was broken before it was even published. Earlier this month the Conservatives admitted that the government will only provide funding for 6 hospitals in this parliament, which will be refurbishments, rather than totally new builds. The other 34 hospitals will also only receive limited amounts of "seed funding" to allow them to be refurbished at a later date. Another pledge in the manifesto for "50,000 more nurses," also fell apart after the party admitted that only 30,000 of these would be new members of staff.

Promise made: Boris Johnson ran twice for Mayor of London on a ticket of opposing expansion of Heathrow, famously saying that he would lie down "in front of those bulldozers and stop the building, stop the construction of that third runway."

Promise broken: Not only did Johnson not lie down in front of the bulldozers, but when the House of Commons vote on Heathrow expansion took place, Johnson went on a foreign trip which meant he was unable to take part in the vote. Following the trip, which cost taxpayers some £20,000, Johnson told Conservative MPs that he would not scrap expansion at Heathrow.
Sure enough the Conservative manifesto released on Sunday states that the decision to go ahead with the project has already been taken.

Promise made: When Boris Johnson became mayor he promised to totally eradicate rough sleeping on the streets of London by 2012, saying that "It's scandalous that in the 21st century London people have to resort to sleeping on the streets".


Promise broken: Rough sleeping rose by 130% in London over the course of his time in office.


Promise made: Johnson's new manifesto promises to cut down on strike action on public transport, saying that unions will be forced to "provide minimum service operates during transport strikes".


So how reliable is this promise? Well in 2008 Johnson also promised to negotiate a "no strike deal" with the Tube unions to ensure that no strike action ever took place again on the London Underground.



Promise broken: Johnson did not even attempt to broker such a deal and consistently refused to meet with Tube union leaders while he was mayor. The strikes continued.

Promise made: Johnson's new manifesto promises to cut down on strike action on public transport, saying that unions will be forced to "provide minimum service operates during transport strikes".


So how reliable is this promise? Well in 2008 Johnson also promised to negotiate a "no strike deal" with the Tube unions to ensure that no strike action ever took place again on the London Underground.

Promise broken: Johnson did not even attempt to broker such a deal and consistently refused to meet with Tube union leaders while he was mayor. The strikes continued.



Promise made: Johnson was first elected mayor in 2008 on a manifesto bemoaning the fact that Londoners "pay the highest fares in Europe," before immediately introducing a series of inflation-busting fares increases. Despite this record, Johnson in 2012 promised to "bear down on fares" adding that "under my approach fares will be lower in the long term". In a debate on the BBC, he even went so far as to say that fares would "go down in an honest and sustainable way" if he was re-elected.

Promise broken: In the first year after being re-elected, Johnson increased fares by on average 4.2% and then raised them in line with inflation in subsequent years. Overall the cost of a single bus fare increased by two-thirds since Johnson was first elected.

 

[peteblue]

I can only imagine just how angry you are right about now with Johnson as PM , So did you go labour or or Lib Dem ? No way you’d tolerate anyone who consistently failed to deliver on a string Of Promises this long .


Promise made: Boris Johnson won the race for the Conservative party leadership on a promise to "get Brexit done" by October 31st. Johnson described the pledge as "do or die" and said there "were no circumstances" in which his government would allow Brexit to be delayed for a third time, with aides even briefing that he would risk arrest rather than let it happen.
Promise broken: The United Kingdom did not leave on October 31 after Johnson wrote to the EU requesting another three-month delay. He blamed Parliament for forcing him to delay.


Promise made: Boris Johnson's bid for the leadership was successful thanks to him gaining the support of many centre-ground Conservative MPs who might otherwise have voted against his leadership. Central to that success was his promise at a meeting of the "One nation" group of MPs, that he would not suspend, or "prorogue" Parliament in order to force through Brexit.

"I would like to make it absolutely clear that I am not attracted to arcane procedures such as the prorogation of parliament," he told the MPs.
Promise broken: Boris Johnson prorogued parliament for the longest period ever in the modern era. His decision was subsequently overturned by the Supreme Court, which ruled it illegal.



Promise made:The Conservative campaign manifesto promises that Johnson will build "40 new hospitals."

Promise broken: However, this pledge was broken before it was even published. Earlier this month the Conservatives admitted that the government will only provide funding for 6 hospitals in this parliament, which will be refurbishments, rather than totally new builds. The other 34 hospitals will also only receive limited amounts of "seed funding" to allow them to be refurbished at a later date. Another pledge in the manifesto for "50,000 more nurses," also fell apart after the party admitted that only 30,000 of these would be new members of staff.

Promise made: Boris Johnson ran twice for Mayor of London on a ticket of opposing expansion of Heathrow, famously saying that he would lie down "in front of those bulldozers and stop the building, stop the construction of that third runway."

Promise broken: Not only did Johnson not lie down in front of the bulldozers, but when the House of Commons vote on Heathrow expansion took place, Johnson went on a foreign trip which meant he was unable to take part in the vote. Following the trip, which cost taxpayers some £20,000, Johnson told Conservative MPs that he would not scrap expansion at Heathrow.
Sure enough the Conservative manifesto released on Sunday states that the decision to go ahead with the project has already been taken.

Promise made: When Boris Johnson became mayor he promised to totally eradicate rough sleeping on the streets of London by 2012, saying that "It's scandalous that in the 21st century London people have to resort to sleeping on the streets".


Promise broken: Rough sleeping rose by 130% in London over the course of his time in office.


Promise made: Johnson's new manifesto promises to cut down on strike action on public transport, saying that unions will be forced to "provide minimum service operates during transport strikes".


So how reliable is this promise? Well in 2008 Johnson also promised to negotiate a "no strike deal" with the Tube unions to ensure that no strike action ever took place again on the London Underground.



Promise broken: Johnson did not even attempt to broker such a deal and consistently refused to meet with Tube union leaders while he was mayor. The strikes continued.

Promise made: Johnson's new manifesto promises to cut down on strike action on public transport, saying that unions will be forced to "provide minimum service operates during transport strikes".


So how reliable is this promise? Well in 2008 Johnson also promised to negotiate a "no strike deal" with the Tube unions to ensure that no strike action ever took place again on the London Underground.

Promise broken: Johnson did not even attempt to broker such a deal and consistently refused to meet with Tube union leaders while he was mayor. The strikes continued.



Promise made: Johnson was first elected mayor in 2008 on a manifesto bemoaning the fact that Londoners "pay the highest fares in Europe," before immediately introducing a series of inflation-busting fares increases. Despite this record, Johnson in 2012 promised to "bear down on fares" adding that "under my approach fares will be lower in the long term". In a debate on the BBC, he even went so far as to say that fares would "go down in an honest and sustainable way" if he was re-elected.

Promise broken: In the first year after being re-elected, Johnson increased fares by on average 4.2% and then raised them in line with inflation in subsequent years. Overall the cost of a single bus fare increased by two-thirds since Johnson was first elected.

Nice try. I do not live in London and have little interest in the place. He has been PM for a couple of months, he took us out of the EU as promised and he beat Corbyn into submission in the GE.....I’m reasonably happy....

 

[Harryflashman]

Nice try. I do not live in London and have little interest in the place. He has been PM for a couple of months, he took us out of the EU as promised and he beat Corbyn into submission in the GE.....I’m reasonably happy....

ah so it’s only promises to you or matter to you ? if somebody repeatedly fails to deliver on promises you’ll tolerate it in an end justifies means type way ? Seems like a shift from your original point but it’s your views so your entitled to them , personally I wouldn’t champion that I “wouldn’t tolerate non delivery on a promise “ then shift dramatically but different strokes .