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No doubt he'll worm his way into the house of lords, another reason Labour need to abolish it
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No doubt he'll worm his way into the house of lords, another reason Labour need to abolish it
He’s a Victorian so he must be older than 80 already
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John Curtis saying that polling suggests as many as 1 in 4 con voters from 2019 are saying they will back reform.
The disaster of a con reform alliance still looms.
The disaster of a con reform alliance still looms.
Is that all voters or a subset, like Red Wallers? It's still a problem for the Tories because chasing that 25% could well see them jettison even more from the liberal centrist One Nation lot. You can't simply add their vote shares together and assume a formal alliance would be as strong.
Let's look at Labour's recent history, but going in reverse, and assume that Starmer got removed from the Leadership and replaced with Corbyn. A lot of natural-Leftist supporters who have currently sworn for the Greens or the Workers would drop that minor party stuff immediately and throw their weight behind Labour with a 'proper' guy in charge, but the country as a whole would desert the party as we head 'back' towards the 2019 election.
I do think that that Tories will dabble with this, after the election. I think the Farage dream scenario is for him to get in at Clacton, the Tories to get hammered to a historical level and to end up with someone terrible as Leader to replace Sunak, someone naive enough to invite him to join their ranks. At that point he'd be one of their most high-profile MPs and would 100% go for the leadership when he could. So I don't see an alliance in store, but a takeover.
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It was just a high level finding presented in his GE soundbite this morning.
Won't happen till after the election when Farage will stage a takeover of the Tories.
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In the House of Lords, doubtful.
Mordaunt or Patel.
I’d think Mordaunt. She’s been quite smart to maintain a high profile but sufficiently distance herself from association with the shitshow.
Aye but think about the nutters electing them.
What makes this kind of prediction so difficult at th moment though is that the potential scale of Tory defeat will impact not just who remains to put themselves forward, but also the voting base who will winnow the hopefuls down to two. Whilst the majority size won't affect Labour's ability to govern, there's a huge difference in how the Tory leadership contest looks if they're on 60, 120 or 180 seats for example.
I know some research is being done into it, but given how wide the possible numbers could be at this point it's a bit of a fool's errand I think.
I know some research is being done into it, but given how wide the possible numbers could be at this point it's a bit of a fool's errand I think.
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She’s not right wing enough for the Tory Party voters.
We had a situation where the outright lunacy of truss was unleashed on the nation instead of sunak and we got sunak 43 days later. What a shame she can't be the leader of the opposition, PMQ's would be the hottest ticket on tv.
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