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Great, like i keep saying now go and convince Modi et al...
I don't think you understand. Things like air pollution and water issues disproportionately affect the poorest communities, who are also least able to respond by adopting clean energy solutions. Look at the energy situation, for instance. It's the poorest who have suffered most (as it usually is), yet they're unable to afford loft insulation or other things that might reduce their energy bills.

It's pretty well understood now that tackling inequality and net zero collectively is simply good policy.
 
I don't think you understand. Things like air pollution and water issues disproportionately affect the poorest communities, who are also least able to respond by adopting clean energy solutions. Look at the energy situation, for instance. It's the poorest who have suffered most (as it usually is), yet they're unable to afford loft insulation or other things that might reduce their energy bills.

It's pretty well understood now that tackling inequality and net zero collectively is simply good policy.
Think you don't understand that you have fallen into other posters little game. Am fully supportive of Ulez on health grounds and such like go and check. Also reduced speed limits.
 
Think you don't understand that you have fallen into other posters little game. Am fully supportive of Ulez on health grounds and such like go and check on. Also reduced speed limits.
So what is the problem? Of course we're not going to affect global warming in isolation, but being greener will affect local air/water quality, it will affect energy security/affordability, and it will help to introduce good quality jobs to communities across the country. It's hard to really understand why anyone would oppose such things, especially when the narrative that these measures cost rather than benefit the country is complete bunkem.
 
So what is the problem? Of course we're not going to affect global warming in isolation, but being greener will affect local air/water quality, it will affect energy security/affordability, and it will help to introduce good quality jobs to communities across the country. It's hard to really understand why anyone would oppose such things, especially when the narrative that these measures cost rather than benefit the country is complete bunkem.
Paying for it is the problem be it short term much slower pace is needed, as the world is not on board, indeed as we found out with Truss short sharp measure really do hurt people and their pockets as established markets will need to adjust no matter the cause. Because we all live in the now after all. That's unless we are retired private pension with house paid and electric car then its green green green... Anyway off to Milford Haven fishing, on fossil fuel burning boat, plundering the seas by hand rod and reel...
 
Paying for it is the problem be it short term much slower pace is needed, as the world is not on board, indeed as we found out with Truss short sharp measure really do hurt people and their pockets as established markets will need to adjust no matter the cause. Because we all live in the now after all. That's unless we are retired private pension with house paid and electric car then its green green green... Anyway off to Milford Haven fishing, on fossil fuel burning boat, plundering the seas by hand rod and reel...
When the likes of Ignatius Sancho started to seed the idea for the abolition of slavery there were dissenting voices, especially from vested interests. It was the right thing to do and eventually the idea grew and was accepted by the masses.

Similarly, the diffusion of innovation relating to sustainability will not happen overnight but will grow exponentially once industries begin to see economies of scale. Consider the growth of the car industry from the inception of the internal combustion engine. There was a time when only the wealthy could afford a car but the industry scaled from innovators and early adopters to the mass market. That will happen in the green sector too, be that electric cars, renewables etc. We should all keep the faith.

That aside, I hope the weather holds off for your trip and that you don't have a "We are going to need a bigger boat" scenario.
 
When the likes of Ignatius Sancho started to seed the idea for the abolition of slavery there were dissenting voices, especially from vested interests. It was the right thing to do and eventually the idea grew and was accepted by the masses.

Similarly, the diffusion of innovation relating to sustainability will not happen overnight but will grow exponentially once industries begin to see economies of scale. Consider the growth of the car industry from the inception of the internal combustion engine. There was a time when only the wealthy could afford a car but the industry scaled from innovators and early adopters to the mass market. That will happen in the green sector too, be that electric cars, renewables etc. We should all keep the faith.

That aside, I hope the weather holds off for your trip and that you don't have a "We are going to need a bigger boat" scenario.
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Au contraire, we're gonna need a bigger pair of underpants.
 
Net Zero gone the same way as vegetarian and vegan food just another PR disaster for the zelouts, who would have thought?!. Once you get every government signed up then you can bother me with your high fantasy utopia. While your at sort out world peace and freedom of movement for all...
This is real MAGA style chat
 
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