Aye that’s a good point Mr W. They’ve proved themselves time after time to be competent and capable. Playing a blinder here if you ask me
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the truss crew. valuable.
Mr. White
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What voters vote for, and what voters actuality get are very different things... for both major parties... And I've never suggested our government is competent and capable. I don't think it is, or that the alternative it...
That said, back to my initial post, I did refer to the thought process of voters, not MP's... I questioned whether somebody who thinks differently should be viewed as 'stubborn'?
A failure to indoctrinate, perhaps?
Agreed again. A lot of good points going on here.
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Plans for automated surveillance of millions of bank accounts to catch welfare cheats should be scrapped, campaigners have said, warning the approach risks a repeat of the Post Office Horizon scandal.
The Department for Work and Pensions is seeking new powers to require banks to trawl the accounts of millions of people who receive benefits in an effort to cut the £8bn currently lost annually to welfare fraud. The plan is close to being passed into law by parliament and will be “fully automated”, the government said. It is likely to use artificial intelligence to flag activity considered suspicious by the DWP.
The government said no decisions on whether a claimant was committing fraud would be made on the basis of the mass surveillance, but it would examine cases flagged as possible fraud or error “through our business-as-usual processes”.
This would include pensioners as well as those receiving Child Benefit, not just those on Universal Credit. It would pretty much include a large percentage of the public.
Very authoritarian, very fascist. The Tories to a T.
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The Department for Work and Pensions is seeking new powers to require banks to trawl the accounts of millions of people who receive benefits in an effort to cut the £8bn currently lost annually to welfare fraud. The plan is close to being passed into law by parliament and will be “fully automated”, the government said. It is likely to use artificial intelligence to flag activity considered suspicious by the DWP.
The government said no decisions on whether a claimant was committing fraud would be made on the basis of the mass surveillance, but it would examine cases flagged as possible fraud or error “through our business-as-usual processes”.
This would include pensioners as well as those receiving Child Benefit, not just those on Universal Credit. It would pretty much include a large percentage of the public.
Very authoritarian, very fascist. The Tories to a T.
Scrap plans to scan accounts of benefit claimants or risk new scandal, MPs told
Campaigners say ‘fully automated’ approach risks repeat of Post Office Horizon scandal
That would mean everyone with children under 18. Child benefit is still universal for the first two children, isn't it?Plans for automated surveillance of millions of bank accounts to catch welfare cheats should be scrapped, campaigners have said, warning the approach risks a repeat of the Post Office Horizon scandal.
The Department for Work and Pensions is seeking new powers to require banks to trawl the accounts of millions of people who receive benefits in an effort to cut the £8bn currently lost annually to welfare fraud. The plan is close to being passed into law by parliament and will be “fully automated”, the government said. It is likely to use artificial intelligence to flag activity considered suspicious by the DWP.
The government said no decisions on whether a claimant was committing fraud would be made on the basis of the mass surveillance, but it would examine cases flagged as possible fraud or error “through our business-as-usual processes”.
This would include pensioners as well as those receiving Child Benefit, not just those on Universal Credit. It would pretty much include a large percentage of the public.
Very authoritarian, very fascist. The Tories to a T.
Scrap plans to scan accounts of benefit claimants or risk new scandal, MPs told
Campaigners say ‘fully automated’ approach risks repeat of Post Office Horizon scandal
Believe that when I see it.
Echo's of...
Calls for compulsory DNA database rejected
The Home Office has ruled out the introduction of a compulsory national DNA database on ethical and legal grounds
Tell you what, let's run a pilot scheme to see how well it works. Let's set up this automated monitoring on all bank accounts belonging to MPs (and make it a criminal matter if any accounts are 'overlooked' when registering); then compare that to things like how much tax they're declaring. We can also have AI flag up on any suspiciously large payments not linked to their day jobs for later investigation.
Any takers, Westminster? Or can we just leave it there?
Obviously the 8bn they're trying to claw back is a drop in the ocean compared to how much cash Tory donors and their ilk have steal from us annually, but there's no realistic chance that lot move money around in places that could be easily monitored.
Think it’s cut off at 40-50 grand or something. Basically rich people wouldn’t be affected.
There’s some weird tax charge actually. Most people I know in that bracket don’t bother with the extra £100 odd a month.
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I think it's tapered once one partner hits 50K mate.
NilSatisOptimum
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I looked it up. It is universal but there's some weird charge if one partner earns 50k+.
Strong theory.
More strong theory.
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