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People with pension income similar to their salaried days don't need free prescriptions and winter fuel payments. No matter how much tax they pay.

To get all the freebies here you need to have a pretty low income. Any working person is above that, if legally employed
I'd rather have my moderate pensions and not need the payment.

….that would be me. I’ve probably used my transport pass a dozen times in 7 years and get a prescription once per month. I’d be content if the fuel payment went to those who need it.

After working in a Government stats department, there was always an argument that it costs more to filter out via means test.
 
And that's with the most milquetoast, uninspiring Labour Party in living memory. How bad must you be?
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It’s all there in Britannia Unchained, co-authored by Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel, Dominic Raab and the pin up boy forGreen shed dwelling environmentalist Chris Skidmore. The pound can collapse, borrowing and mortgages can soar, pensioners can freeze, kids can go hungry, as long as the economy is ripe for venture capitalists freed from regulation and, ideally, tax.
 
I do like the stubborn 20-25% that will always vote Tory no matter what. Legends.


Well look at their successes. Britain can now stand on its own two feet (more of a concept and a feeling than a tangible success but still). And they've taken all the money out of public services, infrastructure, local government and redirected it to the fight against the WOKES. Finally, public money is being spent on a worthwhile cause
 
I do like the stubborn 20-25% that will always vote Tory no matter what. Legends.
Some of the reasons are incredible as well, the line in sand such as Keir Starmer can't define what a woman is. The most arbitrary culture war nonsense ranks higher than the end of the spiecies, folk freezing/starving to death or corruption on such a financial level that you could rebuild an entire continent with the funds they've stolen.
 
Some of the reasons are incredible as well, the line in sand such as Keir Starmer can't define what a woman is. The most arbitrary culture war nonsense ranks higher than the end of the spiecies, folk freezing/starving to death or corruption on such a finacial level that you could rebuild an entire continent with the funds they've stolen.
Would imagine when you factor in the secret tories like @Bruce Wayne will be closer to 30% come election day anyways.
 
….that would be me. I’ve probably used my transport pass a dozen times in 7 years and get a prescription once per month. I’d be content if the fuel payment went to those who need it.

After working in a Government stats department, there was always an argument that it costs more to filter out via means test.
Means test easy enough if social services and inland revenue share their data.
But then I'm not sure that doing what the french call 'declaration de revenu' to the tax people is mandatory in UK.
 
Means test easy enough if social services and inland revenue share their data.
But then I'm not sure that doing what the french call 'declaration de revenu' to the tax people is mandatory in UK.

….its not easy and its not a one-off as circumstances change. It would need a department to administer. Much greater overheads than just paying.
 
I do like the stubborn 20-25% that will always vote Tory no matter what. Legends.

'Stubbornness' is a bit of an arrogant thing to suggest, JJ. People who vote differently are not 'stubborn'... just because you can't convince them to convert to your way of thinking doesn't make them stubborn. Perhaps their difference of opinion is based on many, many, years of life experience? Life experience, even if different to your own, should be valued, not dismissed...
 
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