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Personally I think we would be better paying MPs more to do the job properly. I'd get rid of the bars in and around Westminster too and invest in better office space and meeting rooms so they can actually do their job.
I agree. You either pay them a lot more to attract the really smart people who instead go to high paying jobs in tech and finance, or, pay them much less which will attract the community focused people who will do a good job because they have civic and local pride.

Right now we are stuck in the middle and it attracts people who are smart enough to be corrupt but not smart enough to do an effective job.

We should also vote in ranked lists to get better consensus instead of the polarizing politics we have today.
 
I agree. You either pay them a lot more to attract the really smart people who instead go to high paying jobs in tech and finance, or, pay them much less which will attract the community focused people who will do a good job because they have civic and local pride.

Right now we are stuck in the middle and it attracts people who are smart enough to be corrupt but not smart enough to do an effective job.

We should also vote in ranked lists to get better consensus instead of the polarizing politics we have today.

I'd like the smartest people in their sectors get the role that fits their skills and knowledge in government.

What I've never been to able to get my head around is how there's a merry-go-round of different politicians doing different cabinet roles.

Surely, for example, if you're the Secratery of State for Education, you knuckle down and stick at it for a decent period of time. Basically treat the job like a real job (which it is) and don't quit or be sacked within months.

Not only that, surely the person undertaking the role has some knowledge of the sector. I just find it unbelievable that you get the likes of Therese Coffey being Secratery of State for Environment, Farming and Rural affairs one week and the Health Secretary the next!

They're basically the head of a whole sector they have no experience in.

I know it's been like that for years, other countries have similar systems and civil servants do the leg work. But still, I find it bizarre. To me it's just an other example of how detached Westminster is from real life.
 
I agree. You either pay them a lot more to attract the really smart people who instead go to high paying jobs in tech and finance, or, pay them much less which will attract the community focused people who will do a good job because they have civic and local pride.

Right now we are stuck in the middle and it attracts people who are smart enough to be corrupt but not smart enough to do an effective job.

We should also vote in ranked lists to get better consensus instead of the polarizing politics we have today.
Hear hear.
 
I mean they did open Portcullis House for that not long ago

I thought portcullis was additional office space for MPs and select committee spaces.
 
I'd like the smartest people in their sectors get the role that fits their skills and knowledge in government.

What I've never been to able to get my head around is how there's a merry-go-round of different politicians doing different cabinet roles.

Surely, for example, if you're the Secratery of State for Education, you knuckle down and stick at it for a decent period of time. Basically treat the job like a real job (which it is) and don't quit or be sacked within months.

Not only that, surely the person undertaking the role has some knowledge of the sector. I just find it unbelievable that you get the likes of Therese Coffey being Secratery of State for Environment, Farming and Rural affairs one week and the Health Secretary the next!

They're basically the head of a whole sector they have no experience in.

I know it's been like that for years, other countries have similar systems and civil servants do the leg work. But still, I find it bizarre. To me it's just an other example of how detached Westminster is from real life.
They did something like this in Canada a while back, appointed a doctor to Health secretary etc.

The idea sounds good but the skills required to be a top doctor don't necessarily translate to leading an effective government department.
 
They did something like this in Canada a while back, appointed a doctor to Health secretary etc.

The idea sounds good but the skills required to be a top doctor don't necessarily translate to leading an effective government department.
Continuity is likely the biggest issue with these tory clowns. A reshuffle sounds fun in the press but the poor buggers working in those departments have the same proposals on the desk of 4 different ministers in 2 years because they get sacked or moved on. Then the fun of persuading an MP with very short term goals of the value of an expensive project with long term benefits begins.
 
Continuity is likely the biggest issue with these tory clowns. A reshuffle sounds fun in the press but the poor buggers working in those departments have the same proposals on the desk of 4 different ministers in 2 years because they get sacked or moved on. Then the fun of persuading an MP with very short term goals of the value of an expensive project with long term benefits begins.
Ye my friend works in civil service and some of the stories are crazy. They spent the best part of 2 years and god knows how much public money developing a system for farmers in Northern Ireland to help track imports/exports only for the whole thing to get scrapped when policy changed.

They were also developing a cow passport system, for farms that straddle the border. No I am not joking. Cow passports.
 
Ye my friend works in civil service and some of the stories are crazy. They spent the best part of 2 years and god knows how much public money developing a system for farmers in Northern Ireland to help track imports/exports only for the whole thing to get scrapped when policy changed.

They were also developing a cow passport system, for farms that straddle the border. No I am not joking. Cow passports.
Cow passports you say...

 
I thought portcullis was additional office space for MPs and select committee spaces.
Yes, that's right, but it does exist to provide a more modern working environment than exists in the Palace of Westminster. Plus you have a host of government departments down Whitehall, Victoria Street and the surroundings that will provide further space for ministers to work with their civil servants.
 
They did something like this in Canada a while back, appointed a doctor to Health secretary etc.

The idea sounds good but the skills required to be a top doctor don't necessarily translate to leading an effective government department.
This is true. But there must be some people with the skills yet some knowledge of the sector. It doesn't necessarily need to be the best doctor doing the job.
 
They did something like this in Canada a while back, appointed a doctor to Health secretary etc.

The idea sounds good but the skills required to be a top doctor don't necessarily translate to leading an effective government department.
I am sure that in this scenario a top health system exec as opposed to a medical practitioner.

That's another hornets nest though.
 
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