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[Prevenger17]

Wow, I didn’t realise that Brexit had such an effect upon Germany…..

Well it didn't, nor did it have an effect on the UK. Imagine what the UK would look like if it didn't Brexit, would be ten times as bad imo

 

[Kurt.]

Thanks for the irony. But I cannot make the connection between Brexit and Putin piling into the Ukraine.

I would welcome anyone squaring that particular circle...

Because it was all going great before putins invasion I recall

 

[peteblue]

Well it didn't, nor did it have an effect on the UK. Imagine what the UK would look like if it didn't Brexit, would be ten times as bad imo

So, serious question, why is the biggest and most robust economy in Europe, Germany, in the same boat…….

 

[Prevenger17]

So, serious question, why is the biggest and most robust economy in Europe, Germany, in the same boat…….

I don't know, same as why I don't know why their GDP decline is only half as bad as the UKs. Lucky you EU left when you did, because looking at that graph there is defo a negative correlation between being in the EU and the effect of the Ukraine crisis. Thank you Brexit

 

[Rita_Poon]

So the invasion of Ukraine, the spiralling world-wide oil prices. Brexit was directly responsible for those things?

I REALLY do give with some people.

Bye, from this thread on this matter...

 

[Rita_Poon]

There isn’t a connection between those two events. However, both events have separately contributed to the current cost of living situation. Pretty sure most sensible people are in agreement with that.

Embargo's on russian oil might have a knock on effect re oil sales and pressures on other producers (great long term buddies sat around the opec table like...)

 

[peteblue]

I don't know, same as why I don't know why their GDP decline is only half as bad as the UKs. Lucky you EU left when you did, because looking at that graph there is defo a negative correlation between being in the EU and the effect of the Ukraine crisis. Thank you Brexit

Brexit has nothing to do with it. Again, why is Germany suffering from the Pandemic and the war in Ukraine and the Energy crisis, yet everyone in here says Brexit. Please just tell me why these things only effect Germany but don’t affect the U.K. and everything is blamed on Brexit.….most Brexit supporters on here, certainly myself, said that it would have an effect upon our GDP and economy. no one pretended otherwise, so why is Germany, the heart of the EU, suffering and why cannot our EU supporting friends accept that the same issues are affecting the U.K……

 

[Rita_Poon]

For reference :



Time to reform wholesale this corrupt edifice.

Can't stand hoyle anyhow the gutless turncoat turd, though expecting dorries to swing is a touch rich when the gallows ought to have toppled under johnsons hideous mass a hundred separate times beforehand. truss lied. theres a couple of others at least.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don't know, same as why I don't know why their GDP decline is only half as bad as the UKs. Lucky you EU left when you did, because looking at that graph there is defo a negative correlation between being in the EU and the effect of the Ukraine crisis. Thank you Brexit

You can't reason with stupidity. The fact that Germany is significantly more heavily aligned with Russia for its energy and that its economy is manufacturing based and therefore more reliant on the aforementioned energy than the British economy, which still has a bit of north sea oil/gas left and is service-based and therefore less energy intensive. No, it takes more brains than you get from reading the Telegraph to figure out such things.

 

[Prevenger17]

Brexit has nothing to do with it. Again, why is Germany suffering from the Pandemic and the war in Ukraine and the Energy crisis, yet everyone in here says Brexit. Please just tell me why these things only effect Germany but don’t affect the U.K. and everything is blamed on Brexit.….most Brexit supporters on here, certainly myself, said that it would have an effect upon our GDP and economy. no one pretended otherwise, so why is Germany, the heart of the EU, suffering and why cannot our EU supporting friends accept that the same issues are affecting the U.K……

Pete, I've already said Brexit has been great and defo has nothing to do with the fact that the UK has experienced much more significant GDP decline than Germany Sweden and Latvia while the likes of Denmark, Czechia, Hungary, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Austria, France, Slovakia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Portugal, Estonia, Poland, Slovenia, Spain,Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Romania, Malta and my own Ireland all experienced GDP growth in the same period (statistical anomalies you have rightfully ignored). Brexit has really helped the UK stand on its own two feet in this difficult period and I honestly can't think of any reason it is rock bottom of the European GDP growth graph

 

[peteblue]

You can't reason with stupidity. The fact that Germany is significantly more heavily aligned with Russia for its energy and that its economy is manufacturing based and therefore more reliant on the aforementioned energy than the British economy, which still has a bit of north sea oil/gas left and is service-based and therefore less energy intensive. No, it takes more brains than you get from reading the Telegraph to figure out such things.

Well. Come on then Brains, explain it….don’t forget to throw in lots of references to Brexit and illegal immigration and all the usual stuff you try to associate with us leaving the EU, when was it again……oh yes, before the Pandemic, before the War, before the energy crisis, and before the inflation ravaging the world…..

 

[peteblue]

Pete, I've already said Brexit has been great and defo has nothing to do with the fact that the UK has experienced much more significant GDP decline than Germany Sweden and Latvia while the likes of Denmark, Czechia, Hungary, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Austria, France, Slovakia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Portugal, Estonia, Poland, Slovenia, Spain,Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Romania, Malta and my own Ireland all experienced GDP growth in the same period (statistical anomalies you have rightfully ignored). Brexit has really helped the UK stand on its own two feet in this difficult period and I honestly can't think of any reason it is rock bottom of the European GDP growth graph

Nice try, but any chance of a real answer.…..

 

[Prevenger17]

Man, I love Ireland. A great bunch of lads really

 

[Prevenger17]

Nice try, but any chance of a real answer.…..

A real answer on what? I'm agreeing with you....

 

[Joey66]

You can't reason with stupidity. The fact that Germany is significantly more heavily aligned with Russia for its energy and that its economy is manufacturing based and therefore more reliant on the aforementioned energy than the British economy, which still has a bit of north sea oil/gas left and is service-based and therefore less energy intensive. No, it takes more brains than you get from reading the Telegraph to figure out such things.

Germany opening its coal mines up again, Bruce ...... Poland has over 300 coal mines ...... North Sea Gas was going to last forever......
Covid & the war in Ukraine has caused a world recession, particularly in Europe - Truss mini budget sent us over the parapet, but the snide budget today is not the answer - I will vote again to get them out - no taxes on the super rich - the money spent on energy we could have nationalised the energy back into governments hands ......

A totally immoral typical budget give with one hand & take back twice in taxes in the future ..... the average worker clobbered - super rich plus Non Doms left alone ...... 12 years of this & we are doomed as a country ...... the LIB Dems played their part in the first place propping the Tories up.......
Eight jobs, Osborne chose to punish the sick & the poor & now we have gone full circle .....