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There is a proper weirdo at the park who just shouts on the phone the whole time and ignores his daughter the whole time, and like paces around the park when on the phone. It's very weird

Anyway, I'm delighted to announce that today, I saw him today making his 6 yr old daughter put Tory leaflets through people's letter box
 
But at the same time, nobody voted for furlough or eat out to help out or sanctions on Russia.

Labour are wasting their breath on this and are (once again) woefully misguided and poorly advised. They will win few votes with this line of attack.

They should be concentrating on proposing changes to how politicians should be held accountable.

To be fair Covid is a poor example of the point you are trying to make, Covid was a freak of nature that was not the government's making, this unholy mess is and Truss / Kwarteng mini budget was of their own making, it was against all their previous policies ( lol) the last 12 years and an incredible, unwanted farce that was being forced into an already beleaguered electorate. Four Chancellors, two Prime Ministers, countless sackings, no mate I strongly disagree an Election should be called, this government has lost control and it is only going to get worse.
 
To be fair Covid is a poor example of the point you are trying to make, Covid was a freak of nature that was not the government's making, this unholy mess is and Truss / Kwarteng mini budget was of their own making, it was against all their previous policies ( lol) the last 12 years and an incredible, unwanted farce that was being forced into an already beleaguered electorate. Four Chancellors, two Prime Ministers, countless sackings, no mate I strongly disagree an Election should be called, this government has lost control and it is only going to get worse.
I disagree. This mini budget wouldn’t have happened if not for Covid. It is expected any government will experience a crisis of some sort. We can only trust that they will take appropriate steps for the duration of their term. We can’t vote on this.

What good is it saying an election should be called? Tories can just easily say ‘nah’ and will continue to do so.
 
I disagree. This mini budget wouldn’t have happened if not for Covid. It is expected any government will experience a crisis of some sort. We can only trust that they will take appropriate steps for the duration of their term. We can’t vote on this.

What good is it saying an election should be called? Tories can just easily say ‘nah’ and will continue to do so.

Then we will agree to disagree, this shower needs throwing out asap. Bottom line.
 
Well aye. But like it or not the tories are here another 2 years. That’s the political system we work with. And I doubt Labour or their supporters will look to change this if they get in power.

Yeah but an Election can be called anytime, you don't have to wait till term, but you know that and even I know the Tories won't call an election right now it would be political suicide..
 
To be fair Covid is a poor example of the point you are trying to make, Covid was a freak of nature that was not the government's making, this unholy mess is and Truss / Kwarteng mini budget was of their own making, it was against all their previous policies ( lol) the last 12 years and an incredible, unwanted farce that was being forced into an already beleaguered electorate. Four Chancellors, two Prime Ministers, countless sackings, no mate I strongly disagree an Election should be called, this government has lost control and it is only going to get worse.

It is very rare that we see something like has gone on for the past few weeks, that a government is directly and clearly responsible for a crisis itself.

Much more common is when a crisis comes along that exposes the government because its not prepared correctly (COVID) or at all (Ukraine).
 
Well aye. But like it or not the tories are here another 2 years. That’s the political system we work with. And I doubt Labour or their supporters will look to change this if they get in power.
Labour should be If they had anything about them. If this debacle has shown us anything, it's that there needs to be protections in place for the general public. If a leader of government changes, it should trigger an election, so that a lurch to a further extreme cannot happen.

Our system has been shown up to be hugely flawed and we are the ones paying for it.

But yeah, Labour won't do anything and we will be back here again in the future saying how things need to change.
 
They should be concentrating on proposing changes to how politicians should be held accountable.
Criminal charges, lengthy jail terms, fines, repossessing assets and of those involved in corrupt, criminal behaviour (hedge funds, PPE supply etc).

Creating opportunities to short the pound, for example, to benefit themrselves and friends is becoming a feature of the UK parliament.
 
Criminal charges, lengthy jail terms, fines, repossessing assets and of those involved in corrupt, criminal behaviour (hedge funds, PPE supply etc).

Creating opportunities to short the pound, for example, to benefit themrselves and friends is becoming a feature of the UK parliament.
Labour could propose new ways for politicians to become accountable. It’s a win win as it makes them look good and further undermines the tories. They could even find some cross party agreement.
Instead they’re just giving meaningless soundbites like ‘nobody voted for this’ and calling for an election that will never happen.
 
Labour could propose new ways for politicians to become accountable. It’s a win win as it makes them look good and further undermines the tories. They could even find some cross party agreement.
Instead they’re just giving meaningless soundbites like ‘nobody voted for this’ and calling for an election that will never happen.
An automatic windfall tax on financial institutions shorting the pound at around 200% of any profits would be nice addition to the mix.
 
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