The Common Denominator

[FTY]

The generation that grew up watching us in the 80s are to blame

Saw us winning loads of trophies but still instilled this “Everton that” mentality in to the next generation of fans cus of a bad few years in the 90s

 

[davek]

Which either shows what a good job Moyes/Kenwright did, or what a rubbish job Moshiri is doing, probably both

He hired people to spend the cash who had no idea what they were doing with it...and has rewarded the latest one of those with a new three year deal....and we'll get an average of 8th place in that time - needless to say.

Since Moshiri arrived Leicester have spent less than we have, have a worse average league position in that time, but got a couple of trophies.

Give me that over this purgatory Everton provide.

And that comes about by hiring the right manager for 2 or 3 seasons in the last 7.

 

[Carloblues]

The problem is poor recruitment, fans expect the players to try and put a shift in which they haven't most of the season at home.

Board have spent money just got the appointments wrong.

We need better decisions from the board downwards.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

The problem is that Big Nev is not on the board but ‘cuddles kenwright’ still is.

 

[Thomasc]

at least under Moyes reign we had our balls tickled a few times, with a 4th, 2 x 5th and a couple of 6th places.

After Martinez’s first season the bad decline of mid table finishes started again. So I blame Martinez for starting the journey back into nothingness, the other managers have simply followed suit.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Any number of things - mistakes just keep repeating themselves.

1. Martinez wasn't that bad (he wasn't brilliant either) but, firstly, like most appointments pre-Carlo, he was a gamble, probably a relatively cheap one at that. Trouble is we have ghosts to exorcise - Kendall (manager/player) and Ball, Harvey.. That Lot over the Park. In the end he failed to a degree and the fans got very vocal. Season 1 was excellent, 2 was dismal league wise (though Europe was good) and 3 was recovering until it all went pear shaped around February.

Koeman was a terrible appointment - he is self-absorbed and, frankly, in love with another club
Allardyce - embarrassing.
Silva - another insane gamble

And we're just a soft touch for players, we don't play on the front foot, we pass it back, we sit on 1-0 leads, we are frightened of that lot over the park.. I could go on but for now at least we've won a game..

Perhaps it's also that we have a mentality that freezes at the crucial moment. Remember how bad City used to be - and still were to an extent with Hughes, Eriksson as managers.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Nice guys finish 8th.

 

[john jako]

I’ll never blame the fans again after this years home record.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Any number of things - mistakes just keep repeating themselves.

1. Martinez wasn't that bad (he wasn't brilliant either) but, firstly, like most appointments pre-Carlo, he was a gamble, probably a relatively cheap one at that. Trouble is we have ghosts to exorcise - Kendall (manager/player) and Ball, Harvey.. That Lot over the Park. In the end he failed to a degree and the fans got very vocal. Season 1 was excellent, 2 was dismal league wise (though Europe was good) and 3 was recovering until it all went pear shaped around February.

Koeman was a terrible appointment - he is self-absorbed and, frankly, in love with another club
Allardyce - embarrassing.
Silva - another insane gamble

And we're just a soft touch for players, we don't play on the front foot, we pass it back, we sit on 1-0 leads, we are frightened of that lot over the park.. I could go on but for now at least we've won a game..

Perhaps it's also that we have a mentality that freezes at the crucial moment. Remember how bad City used to be - and still were to an extent with Hughes, Eriksson as managers.

Martinez would've lasted longer if not for his ridiculous insistence that awful results and performances were phenomenal and real quality.

We need stability and consistent improvement of quality. 7th/8th this season and we can press for 5th/6th next year.

 

[Thomasc]

Martinez would've lasted longer if not for his ridiculous insistence that awful results and performances were phenomenal and real quality.

And his insistence on telling us players like Aidan Mcgeady were phenomenal also.

 

[The binman chronicles]

at least under Moyes reign we had our balls tickled a few times, with a 4th, 2 x 5th and a couple of 6th places.

After Martinez’s first season the bad decline of mid table finishes started again. So I blame Martinez for starting the journey back into nothingness, the other managers have simply followed suit.

There were less teams challenging for those top places, Moyes would not be consistently finishing above City and Leicester now.

 

[Thomasc]

There were less teams challenging for those top places, Moyes would not be consistently finishing above City and Leicester now.

Yes I get that, certainly not City, Leicester debatable, though certainly not in the year they won it.
Moyes brought in decent players and there’s nothing to say he could not have continued to do that with even more of a budget to spend.
We’ve had seriously bad recruitment since he left.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Average position under all managers including Moyes has been roughly 8th.

We are VERY consistent in that respect. The club eventually reverts to that position, almost regardless of cash spent.

Years of under spending and being left behind. So much so that even Spurs and Leicester have now surpassed us. It will take a good few transfer windows yet imo esp after the Koeman and Walsh disasters

 

[Terrarian]

It's just fraction of support

 

[Yarrgh]

What a stupid poll

Doesn't even allow to choose multiple options.