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[MiserableBlue]

But you only knew that number 5 minutes ago, so have no idea what they are, and no idea if they ended up on our statute or regulations.

I don't care about the number, as I said just one would be one too many

And of course they ended up on our statute books, do you really want me to go trawling the net for sourcing that?

 

[roydo]

I don't care about the number, as I said just one would be one too many

And of course they ended up on our statute books, do you really want me to go trawling the net for sourcing that?

If it bothered you that much, I would have thought you knew what it was. Otherwise, why make it a reason to vote leave?

I am not having a go, but you asked what brexit bingo is, and its this. The parroting of soundbites without really knowing much about said parroting.

I voted to remain cos I didnt have a clue what leaving entailed, and didnt believe the crap that was spouted. So we are alike really.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Wait all you like

I can't name one, I don't want to name one. You said 56 times we failed to Veto, as far as I'm concerned just once would be one too many

Not what I said at all. A veto is a veto, we got the use of a veto on issues such as national security, taxation etc.

We got out voted in a democratic parliament 56 times in 20 years and 72 times in total iirc.

You assert that this somehow stole our Sovereignty yet you can’t name a single EU regulation that we voted against that got passed.

I’ll give you a clue, we voted against such tyranny as wanting to stop Aspartine (a suspected carcinogen) from being listed in ingredients labelling and harsher punishments for oil rig and ship fuel spills.

 

[MiserableBlue]

If it bothered you that much, I would have thought you knew what it was. Otherwise, why make it a reason to vote leave?

I am not having a go, but you asked what brexit bingo is, and its this. The parroting of soundbites without really knowing much about said parroting.

I voted to remain cos I didnt have a clue what leaving entailed, and didnt believe the crap that was spouted. So we are alike really.

To me its like this, we survived before the EU, Common Market, EEA etc.....we will survive and prosper again.

I have little to no trust in any politicians UK, EU or ROW, but there is nothing I can do about EU or ROW. I only have 1 vote and its not going to be given lightly due to my mistrust in politicians of all persuasions. I want my vote to mean something, the rights for us mere working class were not gained easily. It has to mean something.

Right wing, left wing I don't give a d@mn, what I want is whats best for me, my loved ones and the choices I make are based on that

 

[MiserableBlue]

Not what I said at all. A veto is a veto, we got the use of a veto on issues such as national security, taxation etc.

We got out voted in a democratic parliament 56 times in 20 years and 72 times in total iirc.

You assert that this somehow stole our Sovereignty yet you can’t name a single EU regulation that we voted against that got passed.

I’ll give you a clue, we voted against such tyranny as wanting to stop Aspartine (a suspected carcinogen) from being listed in ingredients labelling and harsher punishments for oil rig and ship fuel spills.

So are you saying that in the entirety of our time as members of the Common Market or EU there is nothing that has been forced upon us? Not one?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

To me its like this, we survived before the EU, Common Market, EEA etc.....we will survive and prosper again.

I have little to no trust in any politicians UK, EU or ROW, but there is nothing I can do about EU or ROW. I only have 1 vote and its not going to be given lightly due to my mistrust in politicians of all persuasions. I want my vote to mean something, the rights for us mere working class were not gained easily. It has to mean something.

Right wing, left wing I don't give a d@mn, what I want is whats best for me, my loved ones and the choices I make are based on that

The irony of that position is epic. Your vote in our archaic FTPT domestic voting system counts for precisely nothing if you live in an area that is dominated by one party or another. Whereas in the EU elections we got proportional representation.

 

[MiserableBlue]

The irony of that position is epic. Your vote in our archaic FTPT domestic voting system counts for precisely nothing if you live in an area that is dominated by one party or another. Whereas in the EU elections we got proportional representation.

Why the patronisation and condescension?
Just no need for it. First past the post is better than nothing.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

So are you saying that in the entirety of our time as members of the Common Market or EU there is nothing that has been forced upon us? Not one?

Read what I wrote again mate, I’m not explaining it again, and it wasn’t complicated.

Down with accurate food labelling and emissions regulations though. FREEDOM!

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Why the patronisation and condescension?
Just no need for it. First past the post is better than nothing.

Sorry if pointing out what I consider to be the gaping flaws in your position offends mate.

 

[MiserableBlue]

Read what I wrote again mate, I’m not explaining it again, and it wasn’t complicated.

Down with accurate food labelling and emissions regulations though. FREEDOM!

Well done you, glad you've won, hope this interchange on the internet boosts your self worth

 

[MiserableBlue]

Sorry if pointing out what I consider to be the gaping flaws in your position offends mate.

Thank you for that, not offended in the slightest

You have just won my full house at Bingo

 

[Minimeister]

Imagine living in the north and worrying about unelected politicians when you're governed by the Tories.

 

[Papa Shango]

To me its like this, we survived before the EU, Common Market, EEA etc.....we will survive and prosper again.

I have little to no trust in any politicians UK, EU or ROW, but there is nothing I can do about EU or ROW. I only have 1 vote and its not going to be given lightly due to my mistrust in politicians of all persuasions. I want my vote to mean something, the rights for us mere working class were not gained easily. It has to mean something.

Right wing, left wing I don't give a d@mn, what I want is whats best for me, my loved ones and the choices I make are based on that

People should not have been allowed to vote on an issue that they knew next to zero about.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Well done you, glad you've won, hope this interchange on the internet boosts your self worth

I never claimed victory mate, I just gave you some actual facts and challenged your perception of the supposed democratic deficit we had as EU members.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That is the key point there. If they fail to do that, then the facts and evidence will not matter. This is my point. People will vote for what they believe - not necessarily for what is true. I don't think we are in complete disagreement here.

If that's your point, I don't think anyone would argue.