Current Affairs The "another stabbing in London" thread

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Sadly for Pete, comrade Johnson has created an ambivalence towards cyclists that means his lickspittlery is unlikely to gain similar commendation, although anger against young brown people has been duly noted.

Is it the fact he was on a bike that draws your defence of him, and there’s me talking about law and order when I should have been talking about bikes and cars.....
 
Is it the fact he was on a bike that draws your defence of him, and there’s me talking about law and order when I should have been talking about bikes and cars.....

My defence of him? :lol: If anything it's a defence of the legal system who will know an awful lot more about him and his case than some online vigilantes. I find it amazing that you can sit here and claim to be better placed to judge on the merits of his case than the judiciary who oversaw it.
 
My defence of him? lol If anything it's a defence of the legal system who will know an awful lot more about him and his case than some online vigilantes. I find it amazing that you can sit here and claim to be better placed to judge on the merits of his case than the judiciary who oversaw it.

Such is the Way of Peteblue.
 
My defence of him? lol If anything it's a defence of the legal system who will know an awful lot more about him and his case than some online vigilantes. I find it amazing that you can sit here and claim to be better placed to judge on the merits of his case than the judiciary who oversaw it.

Do you accept that sometimes people, even judges dare I say, get things wrong ? ......
 
Too many Snowflakes moaning about how seeing armed police on the streets will make them feel less safe.

These people need to get in the real world. They use the usual excuse of “but look what armed police are like in America”.

Why is it always America where the people have the right to bear arms? Why not look at armed police in Austrila or Europe where timbers are no issues with the police being armed.

These counties have policing models a lot like our country. But it’s easier to bring out the American police brutality card and oppose everything.
 
Of course they do, but I'd still wager their decisions are going to be better than ours, given the respective knowledge levels of us and them.

So you agree they can make mistakes. I’m merely suggesting that in this case the judge has made a mistake, as too are others who are more familiar with the law..

“Superintendent Roy Smith, of the Metropolitan Police, wrote: “My personal thoughts are that this sentence does not provide any form of deterrence. Nor does it lead frontline officers to feel that they are being fully supported by the rest of the judicial system.”

“The attorney general’s office said it had received a request to review Gardner’s punishment under the unduly lenient sentence scheme.”
 
Too many Snowflakes moaning about how seeing armed police on the streets will make them feel less safe.

These people need to get in the real world. They use the usual excuse of “but look what armed police are like in America”.

Why is it always America where the people have the right to bear arms? Why not look at armed police in Austrila or Europe where timbers are no issues with the police being armed.

These counties have policing models a lot like our country. But it’s easier to bring out the American police brutality card and oppose everything.
Calling people snowflakes, don't live in the real world, assuming replies and going to the extent of quoting said assumption. What drivel

All I've seen is people suggesting a longer term strategy that moves towards a more inclusive and thriving society and prevents the likelihood of violent crime in the first place. I realise that doesn't fulfill your fantasy for being 'tough on crime' whatever that means, but I'm sure it makes for youtube clips and reality TV, thought the reality is it achieves nothing whatsoever, and is just utter right wing guff from the 'bring back the death penalty' idiots
 
Calling people snowflakes, don't live in the real world, assuming replies and going to the extent of quoting said assumption. What drivel

All I've seen is people suggesting a longer term strategy that moves towards a more inclusive and thriving society and prevents the likelihood of violent crime in the first place. I realise that doesn't fulfill your fantasy for being 'tough on crime' whatever that means, but I'm sure it makes for youtube clips and reality TV, thought the reality is it achieves nothing whatsoever, and is just utter right wing guff from the 'bring back the death penalty' idiots

And what is this long term strategy that you speak of?
You also don’t believe we need to be tough on crime? Have you seen what it’s getting like out there. I’m not just talking about stabbings, the other day there where 100 youths attacking a group of police officers.

I’m interested on your ideas of how we make the streets safer, more inclusive and thriving? As you state people are suggesting this but how do we go about putting this into action.
 
And what is this long term strategy that you speak of?
You also don’t believe we need to be tough on crime? Have you seen what it’s getting like out there. I’m not just talking about stabbings, the other day there where 100 youths attacking a group of police officers.

I’m interested on your ideas of how we make the streets safer, more inclusive and thriving? As you state people are suggesting this but how do we go about putting this into action.
That's not being tough on crime, it being punitive for the sake of appearances. Increasing police resources and training is a start and necessary, but it doesn't touch the root causes and we can start on them by getting rid of this disgusting tory government
 
14 year old stabbed to death in London. But as long as MP’s have police stood around outside Parliament so their feelings don’t get hurt it’s fine.
 
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