Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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Prevenger17 said:
Aye, lack of respect for police is out of control over there
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Lack of respect for everyone. People shoot each other over car accidents ffs. I think I posted a story here where a guy ran a red light, hit a woman's vehicle that was driving through the intersection, then got out of his car and shot her dead. It was his fault entirely. This country is nuts.
 
Prevenger17 said:
But they often aren't being thrown in jail. Paid leave and a slap on the wrist. Besides, do you have an answer to my original question? Can you recall any such incidences?
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Well, there's the guy shot inside the Walmart while talking on his cell phone
The 12yo kid playing in the park (granted, he was playing with a BB gun)
The guy in Milwaukee who was shot 14 times; the first officer decided he wasn't dangerous, but a later officer did, and shot him after struggling to take him down
There was the guy in New York choked to death while being arrested for selling cigarettes
The girl in Cleveland who died after having her head slammed into the ground when being arrested
Multiple cases of unarmed, mentally ill men/women shot by police
Several cases of people dying "in police custody" after being arrested
The guy in NYC shot in the stairwell by a rookie cop (granted, it was dark and the guy was black, so why not shoot him?)
The unarmed guy in Arizona who was shot because he was thought to be carrying a weapon (it was a pill bottle)
A guy in New Jersey shot by cops at a traffic stop
The guy in Minnesota shot by cops at a traffic stop
The guy in Louisiana shot by cops at a convenience store by mistaken identity
The guy in Oklahoma shot by cops after his car stalled
There was at least one guy shot by a cop who thought he was using a taser
Several cases of unarmed men shot by cops in which it's unclear whether there was any legitimate struggle between police and apprehendent
The famous case of Michael Brown, who allegedly stole from a convenience store and was shot by the cop who thought "he looked like a demon"
A guy in Charlotte who ran away from a cop at a traffic stop; the cop shot him in the back
A kid in Chicago who was shot multiple times in the back

Surely all these people had it coming, and the police were within their rights and upholding justice in killing them, especially the very brave servicemen and women who shot these unarmed assailants in the back.
 
Prevenger17 said:
These are only from the last few months, there's loads more. In the first link, they shot a caregiver while he was lying on the ground, but were later able to fob it off by claiming they were aiming for the autistic kid he was looking after (however that effing works). You say they should obey authority, but these are all compliant, unarmed men (with the exception of Philando Castile who had to carry for his job as a cafeteria supervisor) Even if they were giving lip or not being entirely respectful, I think a gun should be a last resort to stop people who are genuinely dangerous. What's the point of tasing a lad and incapacitating him if you're just going to shoot him afterwards anyway?
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Oh, forgot about this one. That's my favorite.
"Why'd you shoot me?"
"I don't know"
 
Layne said:
I can't take a "side" in this argument just because the cases for both sides aren't an equal argument.

The police need to make sure they have proper procedures and weed out the bad apples from the cases that are obviously unlawful killings.

The black community need to stop acting like every black person that is killed by a cop was a saint and it was unlawful. This is a falsehood.

Then there's the grey area where the cops need to be protected. If someone continually refuses to obey instruction and has a weapon, threatens to use a weapon or is a real danger then the cops need to know they can protect themselves. This includes people with real looking replicas and toys, cops can't take the chance of putting a life at risk because someone fronts a cop with what looks like a real gun.
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I think if there were any sense of due process, it'd be a different conversation. Nobody needs to be shot during a traffic stop unless they provoke violence against the cops. For me, Michael Brown is the grey area--the officer clearly provoked him and he clearly responded in violence. These others? Why does a man need to put his hands on his vehicle just because his car stalled? And then shot while holding his hands up?

As for me, the solution is in training the cops better and weeding out the cowards. It's always incumbent upon the powerful to take action to help those who are powerless. Shepherds who feed themselves and such.
 
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