Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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SerenityNigh said:
I think if there were any sense of due process, it'd be a different conversation. Nobody needs to be shot during a traffic stop unless they provoke violence against the cops. For me, Michael Brown is the grey area--the officer clearly provoked him and he clearly responded in violence. These others? Why does a man need to put his hands on his vehicle just because his car stalled? And then shot while holding his hands up?

As for me, the solution is in training the cops better and weeding out the cowards. It's always incumbent upon the powerful to take action to help those who are powerless. Shepherds who feed themselves and such.
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Fully agree but then people are trying to include the incidents where people have reached for weapons, constantly ignored instructions and refused to drop weapons which shouldn't be anywhere near the bad cop argument as it muddies the waters when there's a clear issue.
 
Layne said:
Fully agree but then people are trying to include the incidents where people have reached for weapons, constantly ignored instructions and refused to drop weapons which shouldn't be anywhere near the bad cop argument as it muddies the waters when there's a clear issue.
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Seems like there are several types of incident, of which there are several layers:

Police responding to danger -- police responding to mundane incident
Armed person -- unarmed person
Violent person -- compliant person
Provocation by person -- no provocation -- provocation by police
Victim shot while charging at police -- victim shot running away (after altercation) -- victim shot while running away (no altercation) -- victim show while not moving

There are plenty of cases of black men being shot by police in situations that require no use of force. Maybe it's a result of bad reporting, but I am not hearing about white men being shot for the same reason. Usually it's a violent/armed person at a domestic disturbance/meth lab type incident (of which there are many). Maybe I'm biased (that's probably true to some extent), but I don't see white men and black men treated the same by police officers as a whole.
 
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