Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread
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TheBigIguana
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Honestly handguns need to go before the assault rifles. These types make news but the amount of day to day shootings by people carrying handguns is a much bigger problem.
Yea, I work with two other guys full time. No one's talking about the shooting today, both own hand guns. Both agree in tighter gun control. At the end of the day it's the culture that needs to change. Neither of these guys I work with need a gun. They are both stored unloaded, so it's not for defense. It's just culture.
On the assault rifle, this might give non American residents an idea of what we're dealing with, look at the sub tweets, absolute love for a machine gun in a kitchen.
Yep. And a culture that's been allowed to persist long past its expiration date. Not unlike many other long-standing ills of our society
Many of the arguments against change, of any kind, is that they won't get results overnight. So instead we do nothing.
It's just so tiresome.
I agree 100% but thats never going to happen is it. They can at least start by trying to ban high capacity military weapons that seem to be used in all these mass shootings.
Imagine being one of about 350-400 people who could ACTUALLY do things to help everyone else and you decide not to because of money or just being pure evil. I don't understand how there aren't literal brawls in congress, i would be willing right over to a lot of them and just actively trying to beat the ever loving [Poor language removed] out of them
What sort of gun control do they favor?
Lots of people I know who own guns say they are "in favor" but when applied to their own circumstance they balk.
Annual registration such as with a car? No.
Specific liability ins for each weapon? No.
Frequent competency checks? No.
Random checks for safe storage? No.
Basically, gun control is OK for that other guy. Not me. Too many want the freedom but not the responsibility that goes with it.
Hence why I still want to buy Rand Paul's neighbor a drink.
Frenk
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I do agree to an extent. However the buffalo shooter was held on a mental health evaluation last year, and simply based on it getting to that point red flags should have been raised. His actions of meticulously documenting the torturing and beheading of a cat are sickening. It doesn’t make it any less of a racially motivated crime, but it does highlight that this teenager had some serious problems. Like I said having lived in the USA for a while now I have realized that guns are not going away as they did in the UK, it’s a very different society, it’s often made out to be a left vs. right battle, but the sheer number of people who own them on both sides and that will tell you they will not give them up is plain to see. Therefore, yes focusing specific weapons that shouldn’t be available is an important part of this, but there still needs to be a heavy focus on the people too.
TheBigIguana
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Part of compromise is shooting high and coming down. The Democrats are offering agreeable things and the GOP simply says no to it. Start offering wild stuff and you might get them to agree to the agreeable ones. Build from there.
Also I've seen recently that people are modifying glocks to shoot 30+ rounds more or less automatic. Every gun can become a mass shooter save for revolvers and true hunting rifles (for the most part at least). There is that scene in the Wire where Slim Charles says a revolver don't hold 16 neither or something and that's the truth, you can do a lot of damage with a semi-auto handgun.
I think they favor the kind of gun restrictions we have in Mass being at a Federal level.
A ban on assault weapons, expanded background checks and training, gun registered with local PD etc.
Funnily enough tho, they're cagey when I ask them if we should stop Smith & Wesson making assault weapons in Mass and selling them out of state.
We are getting closer to a breaking point such as this in our society.
Imagine tweeting this just after a school massacre
Now imagine you're the company that supplied the weapon.
Now imagine you're the company that supplied the weapon.
He didn’t get a gun until he was legally able to get one, just after this 18th birthday, so this is total bollocks.
And if you are going with the ridiculous “laws won’t stop this” then surely that applies to all laws about any subject.
Seems a bit pointless talking about which should go first, hand guns or assault rifles, when the reality is that neither will go.
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