Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Just to put things into perspective, nutters exist on both sides

‘Putting things in perspective’ ffs

These kids will never know either of their parents


How about we ensure that ‘nutters’, regardless of ideology or mental state, don’t get access to guns that can kill dozens in a heartbeat?

 

[St. Domingo]

And your point is what?

That nutters exist on both sides and that blaming Trump/Republicans as some are doing doesn't make sense given one of the shooters was a Bernie Sanders supporting socialist

 

[St. Domingo]

‘Putting things in perspective’ ffs

These kids will never know either of their parents


How about we ensure that ‘nutters’, regardless of ideology or mental state, don’t get access to guns that can kill dozens in a heartbeat?

I agree - how to do that though without penalizing law abiding legal gun owners though. That's the issue

 

[Walken]

Will Trump finally act after these tragic events over the past couple of day's?

If not, he is conceding that the right of deranged individuals to own military grade weapons, supersedes the right of American citizens to go about their lawful business.

That's his base, he can't attack them

 

[neil999]

I agree - how to do that though without penalizing law abiding legal gun owners though. That's the issue

Errr... How do they do it in other countries?!

 

[LinekersLegs]

I agree - how to do that though without penalizing law abiding legal gun owners though. That's the issue

Personally I think the 6 year old kid who was murdered at Gilroy last week or those orphaned this week are a greater issue.

Millions of law abiding air passengers were penalized when one guy tried, unsuccessfully, to blow up his shoe - perhaps the thousands of kids murdered or maimed might mean we have to accept that law abiding gun owners might have to suffer some restrictions and inconvenience too?

 

[SteveSC]

That nutters exist on both sides and that blaming Trump/Republicans as some are doing doesn't make sense given one of the shooters was a Bernie Sanders supporting socialist

You are simply ignorant. They don't blame them for the shootings or point fingers as to what side the killer is on. A small minority of ignorant folk do that much like what you did.

People blame Republicans for sitting on their hands whilst controlling the congress for the last what 4 years. They are bought by the NRA and don't want to do anything about the gun problem.

They bleat out the same things and with every tragedy do nothing about the situation.

They then do what you do and point out false narratives or irrelevant facts.

I agree - how to do that though without penalizing law abiding legal gun owners though. That's the issue

Are you sure you are not liamg? Mad how two English men drank the same kool aid.

how is it preventing nut cases, mental cases and criminals by putting checks in place is such a big deal anyway? Nobody wants to take their guns, they simply want to control the flow of them better.

Law abiding gun owners should be ok with that and in fact want that. Don't they have kids and family too? It's people like you who keep pointing out the political finger pointing is why nothing gets done.

 

[Prevenger17]

Just to put things into perspective, nutters exist on both sides

Not really, outside of west Texas even the his own party sees him for who he is - a total phony

Who gives a crap? You can't even stay on topic in a mass shooting thread you weird little creep

 

[Prevenger17]

Hi @St. Domingo, here is where we discuss American gun crime. I'm sure you have some very interesting thoughts on this, but before you mention London knife crime, there is already a thread for that here: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...-in-london-thread.104239/page-42#post-7105342

Called it. I'm like a creepy virgin profiler

 

[PhilM]

I agree - how to do that though without penalizing law abiding legal gun owners though. That's the issue

I’m genuinely not too concerned what law abiding gun owners feel compared to the need for action, as there’s an epidemic in the US.

Do you know about the Dunblane School massacre in the UK? One person committed a horrendous massacre killing innocent children.

What did we do? Banned handguns - point blank. Yes it penalised those who diligently possessed handguns, but there was a greater need.

I would argue it has saved many lives, which outweighs the grievances of the owners. Actions speaker louder than words and the US must act.

Understandably, a blanket ban wouldn’t work in the US, however more stringent checks and rolling restrictions would be a gold start.

 

[Toffee in Jandals]

I’m genuinely not too concerned what law abiding gun owners feel compared to the need for action, as there’s an epidemic in the US.

Do you know about the Dunblane School massacre in the UK? One person committed a horrendous massacre killing innocent children.

What did we do? Banned handguns - point blank. Yes it penalised those who diligently possessed handguns, but there was a greater need.

I would argue it has saved many lives, which outweighs the grievances of the owners. Actions speaker louder than words and the US must act.

Understandably, a blanket ban wouldn’t work in the US, however more stringent checks and rolling restrictions would be a gold start.

Yep. The UK after Dunblane, Australia after Port Arthur, New Zealand after the Christchurch mosque attack. Within weeks in each country, there was gun law reform. Utterly, utterly maddening that in months and years to come this thread, I'm sure, will sadly remain.

 

[PhilM]

Yep. The UK after Dunblane, Australia after Port Arthur, New Zealand after the Christchurch mosque attack. Within weeks in each country, there was gun law reform. Utterly, utterly maddening that in months and years to come this thread, I'm sure, will sadly remain.

Unfortunately, you’re almost certainly right and that’s testament to the blindness of the US public and their politicians when it comes to firearms.

If you want to bare arms then join the National Guard - the organised state militia - as it was originally planned; that right won’t be removed.

If you want to go hunting, then use a bolt action rifle or a shotgun as we do here in the United Kingdom and elsewhere - perfectly suitable.

Otherwise why the heck does anyone need a high-powered semi-automatic rifle with large clips? Same with semi-automatic handguns.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Unfortunately, you’re almost certainly right and that’s testament to the blindness of the US public and their politicians when it comes to firearms.

If you want to bare arms then join the National Guard - the organised state militia - as it was originally planned; that right won’t be removed.

If you want to go hunting, then use a bolt action rifle or a shotgun as we do here in the United Kingdom and elsewhere - perfectly suitable.

Otherwise why the heck does anyone need a high-powered semi-automatic rifle with large clips? Same with semi-automatic handguns.

Machismo.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Nobody wants to take their guns, they simply want to control the flow of them better.

Well I for one would take them all away. In fact I would even let them have water pistols or toy guns, they have abused the right to even pretend now...

But given that would be impossible a good start would be increasing the age limit to be able to buy any gun to 21 (you can buy a gun before being able to drink? WTF) and better background checks and the complete ban of semi automatics and rapid fire modifications.