Current Affairs The Andrew Tate thread

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i don`t think they`re contradictory, i might come across as thinking that because of my limited communication skills. they are not contradictory obviously but the discussion isn`t about that - its about empowerment, and personal empowerment ie. getting your $h!+ together is vastly different than trying to sort the worlds $h!+ out. you seem to be conflating the two while inferring i see them as mutually exclusive (which i don`t) pick any dictator at random, they have focused on having a voice, seeing themselves, their ideology and their beliefs listened to - those are your words. i would`ve preferred that dictator to practice his keepy-uppy skills rather than foist her ideology on the world.
I'm still struggling to see why you can't "get your [Poor language removed] together" and think more broadly about problems. And succeed at both.

Dictators also used force and opportunism to achieve their goals - appropriate for the thread I think.
 
I feel the need to stand up for @emir ir here. We might not agree with what he says, but he does have a right to say it. Dialogue and engagement is the way to beat our polarised world and the ills that it causes.
Dialogue and engagement with some creates that polarised world and its ills.
I support the ideal of free speech and rational debate but not for it to enable a platform for outdated shetstirring.
 
I'm still struggling to see why you can't "get your [Poor language removed] together" and think more broadly about problems. And succeed at both.

Dictators also used force and opportunism to achieve their goals - appropriate for the thread I think.
you don`t know what you are talking about do you, obviously you can sort yourself out and think more broadly about anything you wanted. maybe you should filibuster somewhere else
 
you don`t know what you are talking about do you, obviously you can sort yourself out and think more broadly about anything you wanted. maybe you should filibuster somewhere else
Well help me understand because presently you've been absolutely all over the place in terms of logic regarding: "self improvement vs preaching", disempowerment of young people because they feel helpless trying to change society rather than themselves as though they are contradictory endeavours, stated you can't communicate very well then told to me I "don't know what I'm talking about".

Are you sure you're not quasi-thinking?
 
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Self indulgent tossers who would sell their own mother for “likes and subscribes”? I’m sure they did but they weren’t forced down everybody’s throats.
Unfortunately they aren’t “forced down everyone’s throat” it is more a case of the internet uniting the weird or anti social kids together globally. Whereas there would be a few of these in each school year/class often they would moderate and adapt to ‘fit in’ as they progressed through higher education and become functioning members of society. Now they club together on the internet and are made to feel ‘special’, ‘unique’, ‘truth sayers’ and members of a ‘clique’ instead of being ‘odd’. Obviously It’s great that these people can find their ‘tribe’, it’s not likely to help them become functioning members of society though.
 
Well help me understand because presently you've been absolutely all over the place in terms of logic regarding: "self improvement vs preaching", disempowerment of young people because they feel helpless trying to change society rather than themselves as though they are contradictory endeavours, stated you can't communicate very well then told to me I "don't know what I'm talking about".

Are you sure you're not quasi-thinking?
you`re hard work though mate...............but i`m a sucker for trolls and messing about so i`ll help you get your scouts Filibuster Badge.
 
Never heard of him before, but he sold me on the toxic masculinity thing. Especially the 'once a year BJ'.
 
you`re hard work though mate...............but i`m a sucker for trolls and messing about so i`ll help you get your scouts Filibuster Badge.
You keep asking for a debate. I've tried to engage with you and enter a debate, which, by your own admission, you've struggled to communicate effectively about and then become hostile.
 
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