Current Affairs The Andrew Tate thread

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if i understand you correctly, the `perceive themselves` as i see it is just THAT. its `themselves`, its about the person entirely. i`m powerless over for example, China hoovering up Africa, as they have done for decades and i always will be, but that doesn`t stop me from working on me and my personal situation. looking to solve the problems of the world is all well and good but as whatsisname reckoned - i`m starting with the man in the mirror. does this make sense mate as i ain`t no Michelangelo wordsmith when it comes to explanations ;)
I don't think they're mutually exclusive are they? You can concentrate on improving yourself and be conscious of things around you.

The empowerment part comes from having a voice, seeing yourself and your ideologies and beliefs listened to.

Similarly, where individuals do empower themselves and generate a platform for change they are targeted for their actions - such as Thunberg.
 
I don't think they're mutually exclusive are they? You can concentrate on improving yourself and be conscious of things around you.

The empowerment part comes from having a voice, seeing yourself and your ideologies and beliefs listened to.

Similarly, where individuals do empower themselves and generate a platform for change they are targeted for their actions - such as Thunberg.
i think we are talking in different terms, as in i`m not in the least bothered with foisting my ideology onto the world at large and i don`t think that equals empowerment either. maybe you inadvertently hit the nail on the head here. instead on being in skewell improving herself, Thunberg was on the other side of the ocean acting as the public face of the green new deal.
 
i think we are talking in different terms, as in i`m not in the least bothered with foisting my ideology onto the world at large and i don`t think that equals empowerment either. maybe you inadvertently hit the nail on the head here. instead on being in skewell improving herself, Thunberg was on the other side of the ocean acting as the public face of the green new deal.
You said you were powerless against larger forces but could focus on yourself...it's possible to do both.

I don't understand why you think someone like Thunberg wouldn't see improvement of herself and using her platform for improvement as the same ideal..

I don't understand why you think they are contradictory.
 
You said you were powerless against larger forces but could focus on yourself...it's possible to do both.

I don't understand why you think someone like Thunberg wouldn't see improvement of herself and using her platform for improvement as the same ideal..

I don't understand why you think they are contradictory.
i don`t think they`re contradictory, i might come across as thinking that because of my limited communication skills. they are not contradictory obviously but the discussion isn`t about that - its about empowerment, and personal empowerment ie. getting your $h!+ together is vastly different than trying to sort the worlds $h!+ out. you seem to be conflating the two while inferring i see them as mutually exclusive (which i don`t) pick any dictator at random, they have focused on having a voice, seeing themselves, their ideology and their beliefs listened to - those are your words. i would`ve preferred that dictator to practice his keepy-uppy skills rather than foist her ideology on the world.
 
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