Current Affairs The Andrew Tate thread

[trueblue84]

My original post "Remember that there is a creator for everything on this Earth."

I don't think I've contradicted myself at all.

Did God create the moon then?

 

[nsno-chris]

What prophecies have come true? I think the biggest prophecies coming true are the ones predicting the end times, and what is happening in our world now. Things like sexual promiscuity/immorality, abortions, rise of atheism, rise in liberal ideas and so on becoming more and more common and accepted in our society.

I think what people like you and a lot of other people who have devoted their time into science, need to understand that the creator of this universe is able to call all the shots in how we perceive the world to be or how it existed and so on. What humans need to also realize is that scientific findings cannot be the absolute truth either. Nobody actually knows the actual truth of how the universe came about. You can compile the best scientific data, models, research and you still wouldn't be able to convince people that science has the definitive 100% truth. Only the creator has the truth so for most people, it's much easier to put all your faith into the creator rather than humans with their "trial and error" studies.

There was a prophecy told on GoT years ago, about weird little beaut who would bore the entire forum to death

 

[Rita_Poon]

There was a prophecy told on GoT years ago, about weird little beaut who would bore the entire forum to death

take the blue pill and the red pill...

 

[emir]

Just got recommended this:

 

[Charro]

Just got recommended this:

You'll get to speak to an actual human women one day, mate.

Don't give up.

 

[emir]

You'll get to speak to an actual human women one day, mate.

Don't give up.

I was engaged when I was 19, don't worry one day you'll get married.

 

[emir]

Absolutely bananas how people like him can attain such a large audience seemingly overnight.

World's gone to pot.

I think Andrew Tate and his popularity is the reaction or a "backlash" to the current culture we have in our society. I don't agree with his points but he is a personality that you can listen to because of his one-liners and appreciate his views, without agreeing with a lot of his controversial takes.

 

[longers]

This lad smashed Jordan Petersons daughter lol

 

[neil999]

Just got recommended this:

Wow how original, utterly pathetic lol

 

[coollino]

good way to make a bit of money, i guess. I don't even think people like believe in what they say

 

[emir]

There is no doubt that we live in troubled times however such troubled times have existed and been interpreted as 'end times' since the rather vague prophesies existed. I mean - the temptation towards sexual promiscuity is inevitable given billions of years of the evolution of sex drive - to predict that is like predicting the seasons. Predicting atheism is a construct to make people keep the faith that is making the prophesy - its like saying "one day people will grow tired of football and the crowds and money will dry up" - then sitting back and waiting to be right.

These are 'shooting fish in a barrel' predictions- I'd be more inclined to give it credence if some sort of timescale were given by an allegedly all knowing creator. Equally as more people adopt atheism, because education and science removes the need for a God to exist to explain why we are here, there will inevitably be a loss in what that religion's morals. Hardly a prophesy - just a cause and effect.
I deplore the decline in morals caused by the vacuum in leadership as religion declines. However, I would argue that the morals of good behaviour in society existed before eg Christianity and Islam were a thing. They are established rules that make it easier to get along. I'd suggest that religion has been used (rightly) to impose moral behaviour but is not the source of it. What we need to do is establish a societal system based on reason as to why we should behave in certain ways ... like we have done with drink driving and not smoking in places where it is imposed upon others ... aren't these signs of modern morals that make life better? No god needed.


By this I presume you mean 40% of those in the US - not "americans." The US is a unique product borne of those in the UK who could not find success running away to a country with no boundaries and no rules to a land where the biggest gun took all. In order to establish some order among the uneducated lord-of-the-flies reprobates, some extremist religion may have been used. But people believing something is not evidence. Fortunately, as I used to tell my classes, science is not a democracy. The truth is not affected by what we believe, it is the truth and we must adjust our belief to match the evidence of what the truth is. Interpreting the evidence wrongly is entirely possible and measuring the evidence wrongly is entirely possible - which is why no scientist will ever say they have proved - what we say is that we have strongly shown that an idea to be true. In my eyes I'd be happier with a single scientist demonnstrating with evidence why their idea is true, than have 50 million US citizens recite something they believe is true because of their unwavering faith in a version/translation of books written 1500- 2000 years ago.

I think the society is moving at a very fast rate at the moment. The family structure is now being broken down. The idea of a nuclear family doesn't really exist anymore and our society has more single moms more than ever. People having one night stands. The acceptance of liberal ideas such as LGBTQ also plays a part as well. Not to mention, the ridicule of the faithful as well. You keep saying that this was "coming" and it's hardly a prophecy but if you asked somebody about things like atheism, LGBTQ or nuclear family unit in the 1930s, I think that person would have called you crazy at the time for suggesting these things. It's much easy to downplay these things in the current world because of how rampant everything is. Go ask your grandparents about a lot of these things and they would agree with what I'm saying.

I think the biggest thing about religion is that it gives so many people around the world hope, the sense of importance, pleasure and just general gratification. It gives so many people in the developing world the sense of importance. There's nothing else in world that gives these people this sense of importance. You can bring up your science verses but most of scientific work isn't accessible to much of the world's population, because of the lack of resources and education.

The US is an exceptional country and the term "American exceptionalism" was coined for a great reason. Yes, a lot of our forefathers came from puritan and devout backgrounds in Europe, but there are multiple other factors too. The threat of atheistic communism played a part but also the lack of state religion meant that people were free to chase whatever faith they wished to, and that's how sects such as mormonism took off. Some people would also say that the lack of wars happening on American soil played a part in shaping people's faith too. Not to mention, since Reagan's presidency, being religious and faithful has become somewhat intertwined with being patriotic and being a "true American".

 

[LostLegend]

My original post "Remember that there is a creator for everything on this Earth."

I don't think I've contradicted myself at all.

So the rest of the Universe was already there? He just added an extra planet, which he left as a dead rock for a few billion years before creating a bit of microscopic life later on?

 

[LostLegend]

 

[Chewbacca]

I think the society is moving at a very fast rate at the moment. The family structure is now being broken down. The idea of a nuclear family doesn't really exist anymore and our society has more single moms more than ever. People having one night stands. The acceptance of liberal ideas such as LGBTQ also plays a part as well. Not to mention, the ridicule of the faithful as well. You keep saying that this was "coming" and it's hardly a prophecy but if you asked somebody about things like atheism, LGBTQ or nuclear family unit in the 1930s, I think that person would have called you crazy at the time for suggesting these things. It's much easy to downplay these things in the current world because of how rampant everything is. Go ask your grandparents about a lot of these things and they would agree with what I'm saying.

I think the biggest thing about religion is that it gives so many people around the world hope, the sense of importance, pleasure and just general gratification. It gives so many people in the developing world the sense of importance. There's nothing else in world that gives these people this sense of importance. You can bring up your science verses but most of scientific work isn't accessible to much of the world's population, because of the lack of resources and education.

The US is an exceptional country and the term "American exceptionalism" was coined for a great reason. Yes, a lot of our forefathers came from puritan and devout backgrounds in Europe, but there are multiple other factors too. The threat of atheistic communism played a part but also the lack of state religion meant that people were free to chase whatever faith they wished to, and that's how sects such as mormonism took off. Some people would also say that the lack of wars happening on American soil played a part in shaping people's faith too. Not to mention, since Reagan's presidency, being religious and faithful has become somewhat intertwined with being patriotic and being a "true American".

Well done. You have just summed up what is wrong with the USA

 

[neil999]

I think the society is moving at a very fast rate at the moment. The family structure is now being broken down. The idea of a nuclear family doesn't really exist anymore and our society has more single moms more than ever. People having one night stands. The acceptance of liberal ideas such as LGBTQ also plays a part as well. Not to mention, the ridicule of the faithful as well. You keep saying that this was "coming" and it's hardly a prophecy but if you asked somebody about things like atheism, LGBTQ or nuclear family unit in the 1930s, I think that person would have called you crazy at the time for suggesting these things. It's much easy to downplay these things in the current world because of how rampant everything is. Go ask your grandparents about a lot of these things and they would agree with what I'm saying.

I think the biggest thing about religion is that it gives so many people around the world hope, the sense of importance, pleasure and just general gratification. It gives so many people in the developing world the sense of importance. There's nothing else in world that gives these people this sense of importance. You can bring up your science verses but most of scientific work isn't accessible to much of the world's population, because of the lack of resources and education.

The US is an exceptional country and the term "American exceptionalism" was coined for a great reason. Yes, a lot of our forefathers came from puritan and devout backgrounds in Europe, but there are multiple other factors too. The threat of atheistic communism played a part but also the lack of state religion meant that people were free to chase whatever faith they wished to, and that's how sects such as mormonism took off. Some people would also say that the lack of wars happening on American soil played a part in shaping people's faith too. Not to mention, since Reagan's presidency, being religious and faithful has become somewhat intertwined with being patriotic and being a "true American".

It's amazing you've written a post this long without saying anything lol