The all new David Moyes poll (for Davek)

Do you want Moyes here next season or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 299 58.7%
  • No

    Votes: 210 41.3%

  • Total voters
    509
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I think part of the problem with a poll question like this is not knowing the alternative. If the question was " who do you want to be the manager next year and list 4 or 5 realistic names, then you may or may not see a different sentiment. I personally think it is time for Moyes to go, but not for a return of Dyche, Rosenoir or Scott Parker!!!
 
I think part of the problem with a poll question like this is not knowing the alternative. If the question was " who do you want to be the manager next year and list 4 or 5 realistic names, then you may or may not see a different sentiment. I personally think it is time for Moyes to go, but not for a return of Dyche, Rosenoir or Scott Parker!!!
It was @daveks question.

Bent poll, like.
 
I think part of the problem with a poll question like this is not knowing the alternative. If the question was " who do you want to be the manager next year and list 4 or 5 realistic names, then you may or may not see a different sentiment. I personally think it is time for Moyes to go, but not for a return of Dyche, Rosenoir or Scott Parker!!!
I think this is a fair point. I’m not binary Moyes In or Moyes Out and I guess a few people would be the same- it all depends on who we would get to replace him. There are managers who I think would do a better job, but not loads.

The one thing we can’t do is sack him for the sake of it then be like “ok now what?”. If he goes it needs to be because we’ve lined up a top choice for a long term replacement.

Our hand has been forced with previous sackings and that in turn has lead to rushed or panic appointments from limited pools of candidates. The fact we don’t HAVE to sack Moyes is a stronger position but we should still consider all options.
 
Moyes brings stability. After the last few seasons I’m happy enough to give him more time to make another push for Europe next season. But it needs to be more of a consistent push.

His refusal to use the squad and give players chances is the most frustrating thing. As always it’s caution over taking risks with him and it’ll likely be his downfall again
 
Just assess the situation of two clubs which I don't think are bigger than Everton, Palace and Villa.

Villa were bottom half for the first three seasons before Emery took over and since then he's had them in the top 6 every full season he's had at the club - finished 7th first season but that was due to Slippy G and his horror show. Will finish top 6 again this year, probably higher with CL qualification and they're favourites for the EL. He's significantly increased the level.

Palace have been between 15th and 10th since they've been promoted in 12-13 and if there was ever a club that someone could label as a bit of a nothing club, it was them and Fulham. Since Glasner joined he matched their highest league finish and points total in his first season. Broke that points total the next season and won the FA Cup. This season he's potentially going to dip on that league position but he's in a strong position to win another trophy and secure Europe again next season. Again, increased the level of the club overall.

Both of them have done this with players that were at the club before they joined and also having to be savvy in the transfer market for different reasons. Emery due to PSR constraints compared to the clubs around him at CL level and Glasner because Parish is frugal and he's lost his best players consistently (Olise, Eze, Guehi, Andersen etc.).

There is no reason that we cannot employ a manager to do the same here. We need a manager who can break the ceiling.
 
I came in briefly to have a look, the poll is a lot different to most I've seen so far which was surprising.

I've voted no for the following reasons :-

1 year left on current deal, TFG originally wanted to give him 18 months which would have been this coming June but he would only come in for 2 1/2 years. I'm nor sure having a manager in the last year helpsus, I certainly wouldn't let him spend big money for 1 last season.

He is not aligned with the Committee, they wnat different things. Moyes wants the likes of Ben White, Stones or Soucek. The committee want players under 24 like they have done at Roma.

Moyes destroys our young players by not playing them, Armstrong recalled from Preston where he was influential to now sitting on the bench if he makes the squad. Dibling, Patterson, Aznou, Rohl and George getting less minutes than Dwight McNeil who was Surplus to Requirement. Other manager in this league will have given these lads game time to develop, under Moyes they will stagnate.

In game management is terrible, not enough subs and usually way too late. if the 1st XI dont go and win the game usually that is us done.

He is very much in the Dyche mould, he is risk averse and will never just let the hand brake off and play attacking football, what have we got to lose now? Even now would rather play not to lose than playing to win. The football this season has been dreadful, to the point people are questioning their season tickets in light of the recent and future price rises.

Moyes is not the long term answer, although many of you a would say he is doing a fantastic job he has only accumulated one more point than the last 2 seasons, we just accumulated them earlier to keep us away from a relegation fight. Was the extra 1 point, as it stands, worth the £150m investment TFG made in players this season. In fact £100m of them players sat on the bench and twiddled their thumbs. Why would you give a manager that amount of money to do that again? Seems an idea that Moshiri would entertain just like signing old players on big wages.

Moyes is rumoured to be the 5th highest paid manager in world football, his management leaves alot to be desired as new managers come in to this league and over take his 3 decade successes in just a couple of seasons.

I think Moyes type of management is a dying breed, the Premier League rewards teams that play to win like Bournemouth, Brighton and Villa.
 
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