Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

[LinekersLegs]

The interesting question is probably less "Will Biden win?" as Nate Silver and others have good models for that, and more "Will Biden win this election that assuredly will not be 'free and fair'?"

A couple of days ago, Nate Silver had alluded to tue fact that answering that question would require enlisting people doing niche research on subjects such as voter intimidation pre-LBJ and the 1876 presidential election in order to try and put a number on how much skulduggery could move the needle in Trump's favor.

Yeah, doubt Biden would have won Texas in any case but the pretty blatant skulduggery is one example

 

[BlueTX]

Yeah, doubt Biden would have won Texas in any case but the pretty blatant skulduggery is one example

You are just scratching the surface.

Ted Cruz and John Cornyn run blatantly false advertising and nothing is done. They send out bogus mailings designed to look official that are on the very edge of illegal. The state has cut back hundreds of in-person voting locations since the Voting Rights Act oversight was rescinded, mostly in lower-income, or minority, or student areas making it more difficult to vote. Robocalls go out every campaign season reminding people to vote... on the wrong day.

The state GOP here is shameless.

 

[BlueTX]

The interesting question is probably less "Will Biden win?" as Nate Silver and others have good models for that, and more "Will Biden win this election that assuredly will not be 'free and fair'?"

A couple of days ago, Nate Silver had alluded to tue fact that answering that question would require enlisting people doing niche research on subjects such as voter intimidation pre-LBJ and the 1876 presidential election in order to try and put a number on how much skulduggery could move the needle in Trump's favor.

Meanwhile, prominent GOP pollsters doing internals are freaking out because in the days since the debate their internal numbers are trending the wrong way - and down the ballot, too.

 

[RAFUH]

I believe the GOP bylaws indicate the RNC membership would vote on a replacement.

Can they do that? Legally. Folks have already voted

 

[TN Toffee]

Absolutely delicious irony that the event intended to kick off the process of ramming this Supreme Court justice down our throats may turn out to be the event that causes the entire administration to unravel.

Clearly from looking at who all was at the event, and who they’ve likely been in contact with since, there are quite a few senators who need to be isolating. Will be interesting to see if they defy quarantine guidelines in order to keep the confirmation on schedule.

 

[RAFUH]

Hope they do some follow ups over the next couple of days to double check.

Happy they said PCR testing. Trust those much more

 

[BlueTX]

Can they do that? Legally. Folks have already voted

Yes. It is my understanding that's the way the party bylaws work. If Trump dies before the election is concluded, the RNC would choose a replacement candidate.

We Americans don't directly choose. We vote for a candidate which is really a slate of party electors who then choose and in the GOP's case, they'd select the RNC's replacement choice.

 

[BlueTX]

Absolutely delicious irony that the event intended to kick off the process of ramming this Supreme Court justice down our throats may turn out to be the event that causes the entire administration to unravel.

Clearly from looking at who all was at the event, and who they’ve likely been in contact with since, there are quite a few senators who need to be isolating. Will be interesting to see if they defy quarantine guidelines in order to keep the confirmation on schedule.

Pretty amazing, really. Two members of the Judiciary Committee tested positive. At minimum they should quarantine for 10 days and return only if they test negative.

Senate rules for consideration require a quorum of 51. A couple more GOP Senators test positive and quorum is in jeopardy.

Karma.

 

[RAFUH]

 

[BlueTX]

Bill Stepien, Trump campaign manager has tested positive for COVID.

 

[verreauxi]

Once again:

Thank you for your generous contributions to the ^fund^. Given the @ Bruce-Wayneification of the world economy it is probably growing faster these days than my pension!

I have no doubt that the voters featured in the article have a dimmer understanding of the intricacies of NAFTA than @BlueTX's hasty Wikipedia search - but it doesn't matter. They still vote. They might even be willing to vote Democrat in 2020 - but the Party is once again doing a terrible job of addressing their concerns.

And I am not 'turning on my fellow progressives' lol! You boys are hilarious - straight out of Mean Girls. I literally just posted, without commentary, an article which offers interesting insight into the voters that Democrats are ostensibly courting, and how they can do much better - and the usual suspects had an immediate meltdown and threw their toys out of the pram yet again because they sensed it breeched the echo chamber they've worked so hard to maintain in here.

There, there, you have all made it very clear, literally tens of thousands of times since 2016, how self-evident you think your virtues are. But it really isn't me you need to persuade; I would sigh heavily and vote for General Secretary Chernenko just like the rest of you.

I sincerely hope those merry few staffing Joe Biden's non-existent ground game have come up with something more concrete and much less self-righteous than this to offer.

Instead of sticking both fingers in my ears and shrieking 'BUT DONALD TRUMP IS EVIL' for the one-hundred millionth time, I would be trying to understand why it is that the Democrats are arguably only competitive against unambiguously the worst President since Harding - a boorish, lazy, corrupt, incoherent and catastrophically incompetent lout - because of Covid 19, and even now remain well within the margin of blowing it again. It's as though the the struggling working-class voters in the article I posted, whose interests Democrats take as an article of faith that they better represent, are largely indifferent to a campaign promising that 'nothing fundamentally will change' but if you don't vote for us, you're a racist.

Otherwise, it is a steep and slippery slope from when Treasury and Commerce Secretaries Jamie Dimon and Larry Summers announce in January that 'Surprise! The Pantry's Bare', to President Tucker Carlson sweeping to an unprecedented victory in 2024 by combining a left-wing economic agenda that Democrat donors would never allow with much more successful appeals to the Pennsylvania voters' justified concerns, few remaining sources of pride, and well-earned contempt for the professional middle class which despises them.

And then the lights go out forever.

You can tell how frivolous and indifferent urban liberals are to winning power and transforming the country, when their response to the very struggling shít-town working-class voters whose interests they insist they represent is denigrating them and running to Wikipedia to refute them, rather than listening and attempting to persuade them.

Lol...you've outdone yourself Abe. Good stuff. Here's my equally dumb gloss on your intellectualler-than-thou philippic:
Hey everyone, it's been pointed out to me that I am doing nothing of action to change the vote here in my district or even begin to understand how other people think. I am an "urban liberal" and rather than sit on my laurels (or hands), I was advised to understand and probe deeper "why questions." This really rocked my world. I never really thought to pursue a "why-based" question before until I read about this sage advice here on GOT. And this sage advice was administered by a real plain-talker, a regular Joe...someone who never would clamor for intellectual recognition or use obscure references to bolster their perceived smartness. I also learned that calling out a racist Trump supporter as being a racist is elitist and bad. Don't take this morally-unambiguous position against a racist. Rather, one should type furiously with hyperlinks and go on a long-winded introspective intellectual journey about elitism and its ill contempt for the working class. Did you know that US politics could be boiled down to a simple dichotomy: elites versus working class? It's just that simple. And did you know that the Democrats are horrible at doing politics?...I never gave this any thought. Finally, facts are not just facts. If a fact comes from Wikipedia, it is of lesser quality than if it emanates organically from one's memory based on recalling a wordy analysis published in Foreign Affairs.

 

[Blue 1]

How many of them have got it now? It's like the Republican Red Wedding.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

A Trumptard's take on another forum I post

Trump did most of his interrupting early in the debate. It was a calculated move on his part. He did it in order to frustrate Biden and prevent him from completing his rehearsed lines. Biden looked absolutely exhausted the last 20 minutes or so. He was growing more pale in color, and starting to wilt in spirit.

It was obviously two-on-one (Biden and Wallace vs Trump) and we all knew that's how it would be. Wallace cut in and tried to change subjects every time Trump was on a dominating path.

Wallace did his "job" decently, Trump did his job decently, and Biden didn't have any historical screw-ups, so I guess he did his job decently as well. Trump is setting things up perfectly though. He will be better in each debate, just like he was during the last election cycle. He is many moves ahead of the deep state, and that is not easy. Why do you think the Democrats are pushing to get Biden out of the debates? They know this cannot end well.

 

[Prevenger17]

A Trumptard's take on another forum I post

Amazing take

 

[davek]

White House right now....