Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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Anyone think calling Trump a fascist is still 'ridiculous'?
If they do, they are the same. He is a fascist dictator. Nothing less.

I from Liverpool but I live here with my wife and boys, I have many friends (some who I have lost over the last 4 years because of this whole political mess) both Rep. and Dems. Today seems to be the last straw. He and his supporters have gone too far. Pence has turned against him (and got vilified on Twitter by Trump), Melania Trumps Chief Of Staff just resigned, many Rep. senators, lawmen and businessmen turing against him.

He will either be impeached or they will invoke the 25th Ammendment.

Sad day. But its been coming.
 
I agree. After 26 years together my husband would already know I have had a drink once he gets home, hard to hide my silly faces. He would know the truth.

I'm not drinking tomorrow lol
@LinekersLegs I have confessed over the phone but I can't think of anything more patriotic that having a drink at this critical moment.
 
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it isn't - the existence of slavery within the country (the US) precludes the idea of a democracy, and makes one of their distinction (a majority of adult males being able to vote) being moot

Yeah was looking into it then; if you're going to stop counting the UK at 1885 then you can't start the US earlier for the reasons you state.

Very US-centric way of doing it. Arrogant really.
 
This is a huge problem across the board on both sides. When people discuss police incidents for example, cops as a whole are generally painted as the enemy, not the bad ones that need to be rooted out. You may view view each incident for what it is, but that’s generally not done tbh, at least not from what I’ve seen over the past 18 months.
I agree with you..

It generally hasn't been done by many. But him saying I have generalized things with regards to shootings was a gross miscaracterization of me.

In this instance I was not doing whatever many have done. That was solely my point. I took it on the basis of the facts that have come to light and made a judgment.

In any case he flip flops on many of his replies based on the answer. One minute I am the same as all lefty with regards to ideals on protests, the next I'm the same as conservatives on all shooting matters by cop.

To him you are either center, right or extreme right and when you have leftist views they are either not left enough or too left. He can never make up his mind. Sure he calls all lefty in here torie dems.
 
Curfew was over an hour ago. Why are these people being allowed to just casually mill around the lawn, even if they are being peaceful?
Have you ever seen a curfew actually enforced? I don’t think I have. In this case I presume it’s because they’d likely turn violent pretty quickly.
Uhhh.. almost every one of the protests for Floyd and BLM were enforced.. harshly. Friend of mine was at one in Richmond when some one next to him was shot with a rubber bullets 5 minutes before curfew.

It's beyond apparent the differences between two responses.
 
Yeah was looking into it then; if you're going to stop counting the UK at 1885 then you can't start the US earlier for the reasons you state.

Very US-centric way of doing it. Arrogant really.
Presumably the definition is taken from the Constitution, which seems a bit clumsy given the separation of Southern States.

Edit: I don't really know enough US history, nor what we are defining as 'democracy' to be heavily invested in this, it's mostly curiosity.
 
Actually, i read it as 'oldest democracy' rather than longest running. Longest running is likely to be correct.

I think you and Anderson Cooper are absolutely right.

Apologies. It's late here.

Well in your defense, he probably said oldest, in terms of survival to this point. Oldest would equal longest running, but it's certainly now how I would phrase it.

I think a lot of people have said in my classes when I was in college, way back in the Obama years was that the US was the oldest democracy which can be correct but also misleading. For some reason some professor nailed it in my head to call it the longest running
 
Yeah was looking into it then; if you're going to stop counting the UK at 1885 then you can't start the US earlier for the reasons you state.

Very US-centric way of doing it. Arrogant really.

Absolutely - in fact if you look at the early part of the US (1828 for example) the total population was 12 million, with 2 million slaves. Meanwhile, 1.1 million voted in the 1828 election. Compare this to the 1832 general election here, where 16 million people resulted in 800k votes - the difference is not that great, even though many people here couldn't vote because of property restrictions.
 
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