Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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The fact that Trump had refused to concede and will not allow Biden’s team to start the transition process.

couple this with mass firings and resignations at the pentagon and department of defence, it worries me that he is cooking something up in the background.
 
The fact that Trump had refused to concede and will not allow Biden’s team to start the transition process.

couple this with mass firings and resignations at the pentagon and department of defence, it worries me that he is cooking something up in the background.

What could he do? Legally? And independently?
 
FFS Dave. Making an example of and imprisoning his political rivals? Jailing folks that haven't committed crimes? How does that make him better than Trump or Putin for that matter? You've fallen into Trump's spell that normalized such behavior from a president.

Biden needs to stay completely out of any legal precedings related to Trump or the previous admin. To get himself involved makes it political.

Police are under state/county/city jurisdiction. A president doesn't have any say - other than he could stop the military selling surplus equipment to police departments.
As @UptheTofees states, he's on the hook for a number of crimes. And although you are right to say it's not Biden's call on that (or law and order issues regarding the role of paramilitaries and the police) we all know that it requires the political will to go after Trump and his people. None of those decisions will be taken in a political-free vacuum.

If it were me and I lived there I'd consider myself very lucky to have avoided a Trump second term on the grounds that a full blown lurch into race war and social breakdown was on the cards. And I'd want something decisive done about that. I recognise that for now in a nation reeling from Covid19 that may have to be deferred. But once we're past this there needs to be a reckoning. If "populism" isn't throttled now, then it'll produce another Trump, and one who wont be too fussy about unleashing armed gangs to keep them in power. History is there to teach us lessons and they need to be understood.
 
As @UptheTofees states, he's on the hook for a number of crimes. And although you are right to say it's not Biden's call on that (or law and order issues regarding the role of paramilitaries and the police) we all know that it requires the political will to go after Trump and his people. None of those decisions will be taken in a political-free vacuum.

If it were me and I lived there I'd consider myself very lucky to have avoided a Trump second term on the grounds that a full blown lurch into race war and social breakdown was on the cards. And I'd want something decisive done about that. I recognise that for now in a nation reeling from Covid19 that may have to be deferred. But once we're past this there needs to be a reckoning. If "populism" isn't throttled now, then it'll produce another Trump, and one who wont be too fussy about unleashing armed gangs to keep them in power. History is there to teach us lessons and they need to be understood.

Spot on that, never forget, before he turns himself into a martyr.
 
What could he do? Legally? And independently?

Nothing hopefully but what is he hiding by firing people and blocking oversight from an incoming administration ?

He is crazy enough to try and use the military to change what he sees as injustice

I think he will fail though as the strength of US institutions will stop him but how much damage will he do ?
 
Nothing hopefully but what is he hiding by firing people and blocking oversight from an incoming administration ?

He is crazy enough to try and use the military to change what he sees as injustice

I think he will fail though as the strength of US institutions will stop him but how much damage will he do ?

Thats kinda what I was getting at. I have no knowledge of the mechanics of all this hand over stuff, but to me he is stamping his feet and spouting bollox, and no matter what side of the divide you are on, only the lunatic fringe would do his bidding. And military and police leaders are not part of that fringe.
 
When the ridiculous legal challenges to the election results are all binned would Trump order the bombing of somewhere in the middle east
Just like a modern day Burning down the reichstag
 
As @UptheTofees states, he's on the hook for a number of crimes. And although you are right to say it's not Biden's call on that (or law and order issues regarding the role of paramilitaries and the police) we all know that it requires the political will to go after Trump and his people. None of those decisions will be taken in a political-free vacuum.

If it were me and I lived there I'd consider myself very lucky to have avoided a Trump second term on the grounds that a full blown lurch into race war and social breakdown was on the cards. And I'd want something decisive done about that. I recognise that for now in a nation reeling from Covid19 that may have to be deferred. But once we're past this there needs to be a reckoning. If "populism" isn't throttled now, then it'll produce another Trump, and one who wont be too fussy about unleashing armed gangs to keep them in power. History is there to teach us lessons and they need to be understood.

There is a massive difference in what is tacitly understood and standing on the presidential bully pulpit and saying things publicly
 
FFS Dave. Making an example of and imprisoning his political rivals? Jailing folks that haven't committed crimes? How does that make him better than Trump or Putin for that matter? You've fallen into Trump's spell that normalized such behavior from a president.

Biden needs to stay completely out of any legal precedings related to Trump or the previous admin. To get himself involved makes it political.

Police are under state/county/city jurisdiction. A president doesn't have any say - other than he could stop the military selling surplus equipment to police departments.

You don't think he should be locked up, for stoking the fire rights fears, encouraging far right nutjobs to commit violence, deliberately mishandling a crisis that has killed hundreds of thousands etc. He ought to be locked up, no doubt about it.
 
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