Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

[BlueTX]

Also, there doesn't seem to be nearly the amount of people who feel a duty to vote, but are going to vote third party because they don't like the mainstream candidates. That happened a lot in 2016, and each of those votes were essentially as good as a vote for Trump.

He's no longer an unknown, yet somehow he's still trying to campaign as the outsider. Of course, anything to get people to look away from his actual legislative record is probably the right move politically.

It's the only play he has. 200,000+ people dead of COVID, which will be 300,000+ by Election Day. The economy is incredibly fragile and millions are out of work. We are facing an eviction and foreclosure crisis which could tip the economy into depression and he's shown literally zero leadership on any of these fronts. So he cannot win on pocketbook issues and his personal polling is at the point where no incumbent POTUS has ever won re-election. So, what to do?

Game the refs. Claim the playing field is tilted. Delegitimize the whole process. Burn it all down.

None of which he'd be doing if he thought he was winning.

 

[TN Toffee]

I’m trying to get a head start this year on the Christmas cards I send out to my customers and ordered some stamps just a few minutes ago. This is actually somewhat concerning. We’re 5 1/2 weeks out from the election and due to “high volume” they need an additional 3-5 days to mail me an envelope of stamps on top of the 5-7 it would normally take? What’s going to happen once people actually start sending in their ballots?

 

[SteveSC]

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I’m trying to get a head start this year on the Christmas cards I send out to my customers and ordered some stamps just a few minutes ago. This is actually somewhat concerning. We’re 5 1/2 weeks out from the election and due to “high volume” they need an additional 3-5 days to mail me an envelope of stamps on top of the 5-7 it would normally take? What’s going to happen once people actually start sending in their ballots?

Its going to be nuts.

My local post office gave me a similar response when I went to ship a package. The nice lady behind the counter said even the more expensive options for quicker delivery are much slower now. She's had several complaints and irate customers.

 

[BlueTX]

 

[riddick]

Nah I don’t think so. The fact that it’s even close is as worrying as ever. Should be a whitewash for the Democrats. I mean, look at the state of him

That says more about America than Joe Biden or even Donald "I'm a piece of crap" Trump honestly.

 

[BlueTX]

Read the story lads. Ballots intentionally discarded. Broken record alright. Don’t worry boys I will be shutting my account down real soon. Not my cup of tea here with all the petty sniping when I make/post valid points.

Oh my word. Did you really leave? Probably good if you did since this might hurt a bit...

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Oh my word. Did you really leave? Probably good if you did since this might hurt a bit...

I think he/she's still here, just lurking rather than posting. No doubt still getting all worked up over all the damn pinko commies in this thread.

 

[davek]

I hope America's deep state are going to step in if it's at all close and stuff ballot boxes with ballot papers for Biden, misrecord / destroy votes for Trump - tamper with computer software/hardware for the same outcomes. Nothing should be off the table to get a fascist out of the White House.

 

[Moomin]

I think he/she's still here, just lurking rather than posting. No doubt still getting all worked up over all the damn pinko commies in this thread.

He has gone, you can't search for his name.

He wilted with a few negs and cried off.

 

[Xizor]

I hope America's deep state are going to step in if it's at all close and stuff ballot boxes with ballot papers for Biden, misrecord / destroy votes for Trump - tamper with computer software/hardware for the same outcomes. Nothing should be off the table to get a fascist out of the White House.

I'm not sure that supporting the undermining of democracy in order to defend democracy is the ideal position to take, given that it's the undermining of democracy that you've got a problem with. Convincing yourself that it's justified to do bad things for a good reason because the other side about to do the same bad things for a bad reason is pretty much how politics has gotten to this mess in the first place, and only opens the door later on to wider and worse definitions of 'good reasons'.

 

[davek]

I'm not sure that supporting the undermining of democracy in order to defend democracy is the ideal position to take, given that it's the undermining of democracy that you've got a problem with. Convincing yourself that it's justified to do bad things for a good reason because the other side about to do the same bad things for a bad reason is pretty much how politics has gotten to this mess in the first place, and only opens the door later on to wider and worse definitions of 'good reasons'.

Well, it's not an ideal solution, but any port in a storm.

Trump is a fascist. He needs to be seen and treated as such and all tactics should be on the table to get him out of the White House. Nefarious or otherwise. The United States stands at a cross roads between chaos and fascism and stability and a functioning democracy.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Well, it's not an ideal solution, but any port in a storm.

Trump is a fascist. He needs to be seen and treated as such and all tactics should be on the table to get him out of the White House. Nefarious or otherwise. The United States stands at a cross roads between chaos and fascism and stability and a functioning democracy.

He needs to be beaten straight up at the ballot box. And not just beaten but decimated.

Anything else would remove Trump but possibly make Trumpism even worse.

 

[degsy]

I hope America's deep state are going to step in if it's at all close and stuff ballot boxes with ballot papers for Biden, misrecord / destroy votes for Trump - tamper with computer software/hardware for the same outcomes. Nothing should be off the table to get a fascist out of the White House.

How many wrongs is it nowadays that don't make a right?

 

[Xizor]

The United States stands at a cross roads between chaos and fascism and stability and a functioning democracy.

FYI, your own definition of a functioning democracy currently includes:

• stuffing ballot boxes with ballot papers for one canditate
• misrecording/destroying votes for the other candidate
• tampering with computer software/hardware for the same outcomes

Being carried out by a faceless, unelected bureaucracy.

 

[davek]

FYI, your own definition of a functioning democracy currently includes:

• stuffing ballot boxes with ballot papers for one canditate
• misrecording/destroying votes for the other candidate
• tampering with computer software/hardware for the same outcomes

Being carried out by a faceless, unelected bureaucracy.

The US needs a reset.