Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

[Death]

Aye,

But it all started with the following non-sensical post: "Don’t get your presidential race news from mainstream media like CNN etc. They aggressively helped lie America into an illegal war in Iraq."

That’s not Nonsense. CNN and Fox did push that war. Do you want proof?

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

That’s not Nonsense. CNN and Fox did push that war. Do you want proof?

No

I'm just saying that has nothing to do with the topic on hand. Spiraling into a discussion about mainstream media bad, war bad, some other ideal is good has nothing to do with what we are currently dealing with in America right now in terms of Trump and the upcoming election.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Trying to turn to comedy cause I like you and told you I’d try be nice to you a while back.

Trying and failing.

 

[abelard]

No

I'm just saying that has nothing to do with the topic on hand. Spiraling into a discussion about mainstream media bad, war bad, some other ideal is good has nothing to do with what we are currently dealing with in America right now in terms of Trump and the upcoming election.

The unmitigated catastrophe that is the Iraq War, and the systematic bipartisan deception by politicians and media/permanent lack of trust that followed has nothing to do with Donald Trump?

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Well, I guess it depends how he wins.
If he wins the popular vote, we move on, but that'll never happen.
If he wins without the popular vote but a handy electoral college win, we move on.
If, and this is a likely scenario, he gets crushed in the popular vote, and there are some races too tight to call in the electoral college, then we are in trouble. There's a chance he'll control the supreme court by then so they'll back any legal challenge he'll take against a result he's not happy with.
So what happens if Trump wins, very much depends on how he wins.
It also depends on if the republicans keep the senate.
If these things happen, you could start to see a fracturing of the country as blue states start pushing for more and more power, start working in groups to ensure the survival fo the ACA or Roe v Wade. The red states won't object to this as they see this as the 'South rising again'.
Trump will work hard to install Don Junior and Ivanka as the party heirs and reasonable republicans (are there any?) will desert the party and be replaced by loons.
Who knows, but in the past four years Trump has ruined the reputation of this country, torn apart systems and tradition and stood by as 200k died from a virus he tried to use as a political football.
The vultures are circling round the UK now thanks to Brexit, they're waiting till nov 3 to see if they can circle round the US too.

Curious to know how undecided US voters react to Trump's obvious nepotism? I know his supporters will go along with anything he does or says like.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

The unmitigated catastrophe that is the Iraq War, and the systematic bipartisan deception by politicians and media/permanent lack of trust that followed has nothing to do with Donald Trump?

Correct.

What does have to do with Donald Trump started with conservative talk radio in the early 90s led by Rush Limbaugh, was legislated through Newt Gingrich, and fomented by Fox News into the turn of the century and beyond. Then we added on to that the era of fake news spread easily with social media.

You act like there's a lack of trust by the American people over the news b/c of the Iraq War? Surely you cannot be serious.

 

[Ruairi77]

The unmitigated catastrophe that is the Iraq War, and the systematic bipartisan deception by politicians and media/permanent lack of trust that followed has nothing to do with Donald Trump?

everyone here knows the media didn't raise enough questions about the Iraq war. Everyone here knows CNN, FOX, MSNBC, OAN etc are private companies with agendas. So coming on here and warning everyone about CNN because they supported the Iraq war seems a bit redundant, especially from someone who isn't fully aware of how Americans get their news.

 

[Death]

no, not really, where do you get your news about the presidential race?
and how much do you think Americans watch CNN?

I like to read independent not-for-profit news sources like ‘the conversation’ etc

Id say with cnn at any giving time on prime time maybe a million or two. God knows how many overall. But that’s a lot at one given time.

 

[Death]

No

I'm just saying that has nothing to do with the topic on hand. Spiraling into a discussion about mainstream media bad, war bad, some other ideal is good has nothing to do with what we are currently dealing with in America right now in terms of Trump and the upcoming election.

No it is relevant to the election.

 

[abelard]

You act like there's a lack of trust by the American people over the news b/c of the Iraq War? Surely you cannot be serious.

Erm.... mate? You might want to pause for a bit, give this another read, and try again

 

[Ruairi77]

I like to read independent not-for-profit news sources like ‘the conversation’ etc

Id say with cnn at any giving time on prime time maybe a million or two. God knows how many overall. But that’s a lot at one given time.

nowhere near the amount of people getting their news from Facebook.
If you're going to worry about people getting mis-informed, maybe that's a good place to start.
CNN has it's ups and downs but it's far from the biggest problem when it comes to misinformation about the presidential race.

 

[Death]

Trying and failing.

meh, the idea of asking the Áras an Uachtaráin what is up instead of watching RTE is a tad amusing in the context. Unless you don’t like me and the things I say. In which case you are biased.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

nowhere near the amount of people getting their news from Facebook.
If you're going to worry about people getting mis-informed, maybe that's a good place to start.
CNN has it's ups and downs but it's far from the biggest problem when it comes to misinformation about the presidential race.

100% this

 

[Death]

nowhere near the amount of people getting their news from Facebook.
If you're going to worry about people getting mis-informed, maybe that's a good place to start.
CNN has it's ups and downs but it's far from the biggest problem when it comes to misinformation about the presidential race.

CNN is utter scum and needs boycotting.

I deleted my Facebook app a long time ago so don’t know what’s there. I could be wrong but surely there is CNN stuff on Facebook? Again could be wrong. I am long out of the Facebook game.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

meh, the idea of asking the Áras an Uachtaráin what is up instead of watching RTE is a tad amusing in the context. Unless you don’t like me and the things I say. In which case you are biased.

I actually empathise with a lot of your political posts and enjoy reading them.

But then there's your supposedly 'edgy' posts (like these) that I find tedious and massively off topic.

Each to their own.