The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%

  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%

  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%

  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%

  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%
  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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daylightrobber said:
Why do you think the 2 Eds are so dangerous and why do the SNP scare you? Genuine questions.

I think the rest of your post demonstrates how disillusioned people are with the options on the table. Voting for your local candidate is exactly the right thing to do. Vote for the person who will represent you as an individual. The bigger picture will look after itself. If you don't like the direction any party is going in the best thing you can do is lobby your local mp. Ask them how they voted on issues you've cared about in the past and how they're going to vote on future issues. Once in office they're there to serve our needs. Use the service.
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I think Balls is an incompetent buffoon who has somehow managed to get himself into a position to become one of, if not the, most powerful individual in the country. It's truly worrying and his consistency is very close to me, he barely got re-elected there. I don't think he actually knows what he will do or how if he were to become chancellor.

Milliband is a just a weak individual and he is not a leader. Someone like Sturgeon would rip him to shreds (one of the reasons i'm terrified of a Labour / SNP coalition). Can you imagine a sensitive situation with Russian and it's Miliband who goes to negotiate with Putin? He even had to resort to lying about putting 'The leader of the free world in his place'. To his credit i do believe he genuinely wants whats best for the people of this country, but i fear, like Balls, he has no idea how an economy actually works and no real plan. His Robin Hood style rob the rich and give to the poor is naive, un-productice and in all likelihood won't really happen. The mansion tax is possible one of the most stupid policies ever to grace British politics, right up there with the Tories bedroom tax. There are huge numbers of people living in houses of a value that is beyond the owners current means. You could buy a 3-4 bed house in Hampstead in London for £150k in 1980, would be worth around £3 million now, so we should tact that person on todays valuation and effectively drive them out of their own home? Its brain dead. Hilariously it's the Conservatives who's potential stamp duty tax solves this problem. If you have the means to purchase a multi million £ home, then tax that individual on purchase. It's very simple. Why not create an extra tax for foreign buyers of property with an extra 'stamp duty' on top of what we pay. In London in particular the richest people from every country in world are using central London property as a holiday home, bank or probably money laundering activities.

Besides when it comes to Labour i am still not over Tony Blair, i voted for him twice and feel betrayed. The man should be facing war crime charges. Gordon Brown let the banks off the leash, sold off our gold reserves cheaply and the Labour policy of boom and bust is not something i want to see again.

The big thing that shocks me at the moment about all political parties is that they are supplying no detail about their plans, especially when it comes to making savings. We are expected to vote for a political party when we haven't got the first clue what they will actually do if they come into power? How does that work? There are also absolutely no repercussions for a political party who get elected based on certain promises or their manifesto, but when in power, do the complete opposite. So what is the point of voting when we don't know what we are voting for and if we did, that those promises wouldn't necessarily be implemented.

The real answer lies by taking the best of the Conservatives, Labour, Greens, UKIP, Lib Dems, SNP etc - why can't politics be a little more forward thinking, more adaptable, progressive and actually do whats it's supposed to?
 
Jxg said:
It's true though. There has a huge history of Labour MPs and representatives convicted for such things. It only takes a couple of minutes to find pages of reports.
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Your initial comment was that the Labour Party is a party of paedophiles and that you are saddened by people who support them.

As I stated earlier the Labour Party is no different from any other major party in that a large membership will obviously contain a number of individuals with such tendancies.

If I search "politicians and paedophiles" I do not find the results exclusively Labour, you find individuals from all parties.

Your comments have no credibility. Firstly by focusing on just one party and secondly by labelling the party as a whole and its supporters by association with the acts of a number of individuals.

Here's your opportunity to regain some credibility by withdrawing your remarks.
 
the esk said:
Your initial comment was that the Labour Party is a party of paedophiles and that you are saddened by people who support them.

As I stated earlier the Labour Party is no different from any other major party in that a large membership will obviously contain a number of individuals with such tendancies.

If I search "politicians and paedophiles" I do not find the results exclusively Labour, you find individuals from all parties.

Your comments have no credibility. Firstly by focusing on just one party and secondly by labelling the party as a whole and its supporters by association with the acts of a number of individuals.

Here's your opportunity to regain some credibility by withdrawing your remarks.
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Well said.
 
piddlywiddly said:
Milliband is a just a weak individual and he is not a leader.
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An opinion formed on what @piddlywiddly? The fact that he has a level of decency that isn't always associated with people with power? He was more than strong enough to take on his brother in the party leadership campaign. He's a man of conviction who is prepared to lead the country by not allowing us to be ushered towards the exit door in Europe. He has demonstrated very strong leadership on issues such as Murdoch, phone hacking and the press in general as well of course on inequality and disadvantage.

It needs to be noted that the Labour party is pretty damn coherent at the moment and has been since they lost office 5 years ago. When was the last time they lost office and didn't fall to pieces resulting in being frozen out for the next term as well? I think the guy has potential.

piddlywiddly said:
His Robin Hood style rob the rich and give to the poor is naive
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This is such an offensive remark. There is no robbing of anyone to give to those who live in poverty. The wealth gap is widening with the levels at opposite ends of the spectrum being equally incomprehensible for the vast majority of us. The rich don't get rich from nothing. The phrase 'self-made millionaires' is a misnomer. Rich people generally get rich on the back of the rest of us in society. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being rewarded for hard work and endeavour and when times are good many truly are. Nor though is there anything wrong with asking for something back when society is failing some of its members. The stall has been set out. We have a democratic process. The nation will decide and it may be that a mandate is given by the populous to ask that rich people pay more taxes. There is a choice here. If they don't want to, they can abandon the society and leave. If they do then they will have simply demonstrated that they were willing to take advantage of those that made them rich in ways which extends beyond any business transaction.

"The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members” – Ghandi

piddlywiddly said:
Gordon Brown let the banks off the leash, sold off our gold reserves cheaply and the Labour policy of boom and bust is not something i want to see again
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Gordon Brown was presiding when the world went into financial meltdown. There were complexities in the banking system that virtually no politician of the day understood, or was advised on properly. On all sides. Boom and bust never has and never will be a policy.

piddlywiddly said:
The real answer lies by taking the best of the Conservatives, Labour, Greens, UKIP, Lib Dems, SNP etc
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There is no best of UKIP. Vile party. Vile policies.

Just my opinion.
 
peteblue said:
I didn't realise that benefit fraud was that high. £1.2Bn would pay for an awful lot of nurses and doctors.......
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There isn't a definitive figure for benefit fraud and error. DWP indicate an estimate. Much of the estimate is down to error: over payments (later recouped); payments after the death of a claimant & etc.

Unsurprisingly, with the mass dismissals of civil servants, the workload is such that an increasing number of errors will be made. Or was the last Tory government soft on benefit "cheats"?
 
Game changing polling results?

Panelbase
LAB 37% (+4%),
CON 31% (-2%),
UKIP 16% (-1%),
LD 8% (+1%),
GRN 4% (-1%).


Survation/Mirror

CON 31 (=)
LAB 35 (+2)
LIB 9 (=)
UKIP 15 (-3)
GRN 4 (+1)

That's 6 polls in a row now for Labour and the gap growing in its favour.

Tories are running out of track here.
 
1966efc said:
errors will be made
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Is true. Just today I came across a pension scheme that due to a single, simple error, probably about 20 years ago, has meant that the wrong level of tax relief has been missed/paid since. No one knows how much, but it will run into £0000's.

Due to the company changing pay roll provider the error will be rectified next month. And there is zero chance of HMRC even knowing they/we have been short changed. HMRC told me that today.

It would probably cost more to try to reclaim the money that is "lost" than the amounts involved. Some people have died since, some have retired, some are abroad. No point in even trying.

And HMRC told me, "oh it happens more often than you think"
 
Survation poll details highlight that the economy is running 4th to the NHS, Cost of Living and Immigration as biggest electoral issues.

No wonder the figures are turning against the Tories. They've done a terrible job on bigging up the economy as an issue. The '100 captains of industry' stunt was pathetic and backfired. Mind you, you could ask whether it's a pop gun weapon for them in any case. I reckon talk of economic improvement is just jarring with an electorate who take the message in and then think: "nah, it must be happening elsewhere for someone else, it's had no effect on me".

The Tories are going to have to up their game 100% or this is a runaway train.
 
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