Stick With Umbro?

Should we ditch Umbro after the deal is up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 58 55.8%
  • No

    Votes: 46 44.2%

  • Total voters
    104
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Just go's with who ever pays the most.....simple. a kits a kit......all the same, always hate them and then they grown on you. Just get as big a deal as we can.
 

i like Umbro's work for us and think they'll give us more of an effort than Adidas or Nike would, but it's also about exposure and availability.

the inability to get a kit compared to other clubs is appalling.

Everton should know where their fans are, at least there has got to be a way to track demographics via social media... would be swell if they could get kits in key markets. Then again, as I've heard 'round these parts it just seems they finally got some at the local Airport... shows you how far behind the arrangement is.

Imagine Kitbag is a huge part of that issue, gotta be a way to jettison them so both Umbro and EFC make more coin off kits (without racking up prices) by increasing the distribution net.



And as far as bigger designers go, I've purchased a bunch of kits down in South America. Puma (Chile, Uruguay, Dortmund), Adidas (Paraguay, Argentina), Nike (Brazil, Roma) ... Adidas gets credit for selling the same kits at a price far more in line with what locals make. My albirroja cost like $40 to $50. Both Puma international kits cost north of $80 US (Dortmund away was priced cheaper than their online store...), and Nike dropped the cost in international kits (Brazil cost me about $60 in expensive Rio, was expecting closer to the $90 they charge for USMNTNTNNT) but club kits are still about inline with regular pricing.
 
Stay. Chance of being Umbro's biggest club and them dedicating themselves specifically to our designs. No chance of getting anything but a template from the big two and don't need some jarg offbrand like Warrior or Hi-tec.

They told us that we were going to get unique designs when we signed with them again. Fact is, West Ham have had more unique designs from Umbro than we have.
 
They told us that we were going to get unique designs when we signed with them again. Fact is, West Ham have had more unique designs from Umbro than we have.
If you look at home kits theirs have barely changed over the two seasons and they're only nice away was the white. Both our away kits have been nice imo and the home shirts, although nothing special, have at least not been terrible(wrong blue, weirdly baggy) like some previous efforts
 

As some of you will have noticed I'm a bit of a kit nerd. Of the big three:

Nike: pretty much in full template mode now. You still get nice kits out of it (e.g. Roma, Inter) but they will be heavily based on a template.

Adidas: Also templates but less strict with them. Definitely more variation but they are pretty unoriginal and rarely seem to do anything that really relates to a clubs history (they've sort of done it with Man U this year).

Puma: shape of kits is a template but the designs tend to be more custom team to team. I personally don't really like anything they make though.

As for the "second tier" brands you will get a unique kit but this leads to some really dodgy designs among the good ones.

I personally would stick with Umbro from purely a design point of view. We are their biggest club at the moment and so we will continue to get attention. However if someone is going to offer us loads more money then I'd take that. That is unlikely to happen until we are consistently challenging at the top though.
 
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They did some bits for us a few seasons back, was deffo the best footy related stuff I've seen for years.
Very nice. For me, that should be our badge too.
 

Le Coq Sportif is where it's at. Their kits at the moment are trés boss.

Adidas is boring template stuff, Nike too. Puma is so disgusting and seem to only make things in XXS. I'd stick with Umbro. That kit (I think Martinez's second season) was the best we've had for a long time. Shame it turned us crap.
 
Le Coq and Sergio Tachini are owned by the same company that's why there was some decent ST garments on sale in the club shops when Le Coq made our kits.

I was happy with the kits and the ST gear so i'd like them back if it makes financial sense.
 
The fact Umbro's biggest clients are us and West Ham speak volumes about Umbro as a brand. If we want to move up a level, we need a prestige supplier, be that Nike, Adidas or whoever. I don't get all this template crap, the biggest teams tend to get unique kits (look at Chelsea, Man Utd, Barcalona) so we just need to make sure that's in the contract. I think people forget Nike actually made some boss kits for us, especially in the 1st year. The best part of that period, though, was the training gear they made for us. Loved the black hoody with the old school badge. Umbro haven't done anything like that for us
 
The fact Umbro's biggest clients are us and West Ham speak volumes about Umbro as a brand. If we want to move up a level, we need a prestige supplier, be that Nike, Adidas or whoever. I don't get all this template crap, the biggest teams tend to get unique kits (look at Chelsea, Man Utd, Barcalona) so we just need to make sure that's in the contract. I think people forget Nike actually made some boss kits for us, especially in the 1st year. The best part of that period, though, was the training gear they made for us. Loved the black hoody with the old school badge. Umbro haven't done anything like that for us
We need the most money we can get out of any company really, regardless of who they are I feel.
 

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