to be honest,good job there is a bad language filter on this site.nothing unreasonable waiting until the end of the season. Everton has made him a very very rich man, he has nothing to complain about
Steven Pienaar
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gaino92
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I'd complain if cleverly and kone were playing infront of me as well, hes obviously had injury problems but when he did come in to the team he looked sharp and put in some good performances
Dont call us Steven.
Have to say would much rather have either Deulofeu, Mirallas, Niasse or Kone getting minutes, even on the bench, than Piennar during the past few months when Steven says he has been fit.
Even if he could perform better in a match than they could (which I am honestly doubtful of now) there is a high chance he would get injured within a couple of games. Much rather invest the time in developing Deulofeu (even if out of his preferred position on the right) or keeping Mirallas a bit more cheerful/putting him in the shop window or building up Niasse's match fitness or seeing if Kone has regained his form from the start of the season. Or even give one of the youngsters like Dowell a run out.
They all at least have a possible future at the club and contracts extending past this year - Pienaar doesn't. Even if you ignored his age, he has had significant and varied injuries over the past 3 years so it isn't just a simple issue of fixing one problem and he is fine.
We've only so many places both in the matchday squad and quite a few players that can play on the wings - if they are nominally fit then someone is going to end up out of the squad as you can't have a bench entirely made of wingers. Can't see any reason for Steven to take up one of those spots other than if we have a massive injury crisis.
gaino92
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I'd rather Pienaar play and had a contract extension than Kone get anymore minutes, he hit a minor purple patch at us and hasn't been anywhere near that level again (Reverted to type?) I agree with all others mentioned and they all should be just as annoyed at the reality of the situation. Kone and Cleverly are not left wingers and not good enough, cleverly I can deal with in the team when needs must, Osman like but not technically as good. Mirallas and Del should be kicking up a fuss or at least questioning Martinez, Niasse is new, maybe give him a chance but I think he may see himself as a striker? I agree some of the young'uns should be given at least a chance to sow what they can do, Dowell should be top of that list.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Whoever performs should play imo, Steven when fit does.
Kevs finished with us now plays for himself, not sure about Del on the left, i haven't got a clue if niasse plays there or up front.
Just think piennar couldve really helped us, no one else does the role like him atm
I knew adding in Kone would bring some arguments
Although he was good at the start of the season he definitely dropped off however I would still favour giving him minutes over Pienaar as in the unlikely event of him hitting another purple patch we'd have a better chance of selling him over the summer. Basically my point is, much as I admired him as a player for us, Steven's injuries/contract/age mean that keeping him happy by giving him game time is very low down the priority list compared to other players.
Fair enough Sagey, think we just have different ideas on what he can currently contribute to the team. I recall a good game last season vsSwansea but from the rare matches this season can't remember him contributing anything other than making Lawro say penis. Was coming back from a long injury so would obviously take him time to get up to peak performance but just think there are players with more of a future with the club or potential resale value to give that time to.
gaino92
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I like you LL good poster!! Honestly I don't disagree, would rather a number of people play over pienaar but if the alternative is cleverly/kone its a no from me. Dowell I think should at least get a chance, he's a really clever player and is the closest we have to pienaar In the playmaker regardI knew adding in Kone would bring some arguments
Basically my point is, much as I admired him as a player for us, Steven's injuries/contract/age mean that keeping him happy by giving him game time is very low down the priority list compared to other players.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
His main gripe seems to be know one is letting him know whats happening one way or the other, pretty sure that the manager knows if he wants him here next season or not, if so be honest with him and tell him so he can go about finding a new club, right now we are keeping him hanging onto the hope of a new contract by not giving him any answer
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Are you one of these at Goodison who slate McCarthy for his lack of creativity and then Barkley for his lack of defensive work and tackles etc?
Think you better get used to it though. McCarthy will never ever have a good goal scoring record because quite simply, he's a defensive midfielder in the team for that role.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/114075
N'Golo Kante - Defensive midfielder and potential candidate for player of the season. 26 games - 3 assists and 1 goals.
James McCarthy - Defensive midfielder. 21 games - 2 assists and 0 goals.
See the similarity there between the goals and assists stats?
Take Mahrez and Ozil as well. Both attack minded players like Barkley who are weighing in with goals and assists for their teams. They're in the team for that reason. Not to get stuck in and break up the play.
That's not to say that McCarthy and Barkley couldn't and shouldn't improve on their weaknesses because both should. But it's frustrating that people keep assuming that these players will excel at everything.
Agree with this, would be straight with him and let him look for another club.
Although that might mean that he was completely disinterested in the event of an injury crisis - some players you could rely on to be very professional and play despite the risk of injuring themselves but tbh Steven has always struck me as being a bit of a selfish tit.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
I just think that the current manager basically throws certain players out in the cold once he gets to a certain point with them, Distin last season classic example, Howard similar, Pienaar now, McGeady same thing, not that i disagree with any of the decisions to get rid of them, but their doesn't seem to be much communication or respect going on when handling these situations
Genuinely think that IF your in with Martinez then he is your best mate, soon as your not he couldn't care less and contact becomes impossible
from memory didn't we puit a stop to Distin leaving in the January - yet don't believe he featured in any game and not even sure if he made the bench afterwards, that for me is just pure form from the management to someone who liek him or not had given a lot of years playing for the club
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Barry plays DM for us seemingly. McCarthy is often pushing forward. He needs huge improvements to his all round game. He is nowhere near the level of Kante, nowhere near. I've no problem with Barkley, he's doing his job, scoring and creating goals, class player. Is JM helping keep them out? No. Is he offering anything at the top end of the pitch? No. Nothing player.
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