Squad - what squad?!!

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Ten years in the job and I still have almost no idea how David Moyes sees football. It's just a dogs breakfast of bemusing team selections and some sort of general counter-punching approach to matches. He scowls; he complains; he churns out teams playing 'acceptable' levels of football - for the most part. He's left about as much impression as a caretaker manager.



I dont think I'd miss him one iota, tbh.
 
The thing to think about who would replace him.

We would get ALex McLeish, Steve McLaren or similar - Long term British managers that hover around relegation

Are they going to do better
 
The thing to think about who would replace him.

We would get ALex McLeish, Steve McLaren or similar - Long term British managers that hover around relegation

Are they going to do better

Do you mean like when we sacked a manager who although he'd failed with us had had a pretty impressive track record in Scotland and replaced him a bloke who had never managed in the Premier League and failed to attain promotion ? Listen I think moyes deserves credit for what he's done but the idea that nobody could ever achieve what he has doesnt wash with me I'm afraid
 
The thing to think about who would replace him.

We would get ALex McLeish, Steve McLaren or similar - Long term British managers that hover around relegation

Are they going to do better

What most were saying when Walter Smith was screwing the club up: "Who's out there better within our reach though?"
 
Personally i think we would be relegated - but im prob very unambitious and afraid to take risks - being creative on about 1.75mill a year in spends, any Carlos Kickball would have us CL for that.
 
I know it's 7th place trophy stuff which gets everyone's panties in a bunch but the fact is there are some teams which spend less, as much, or slightly more than us and every single one of them without exception has not been more consistently successful.

I enjoyed that mate even though I disagree it was solid opinion with hardly any snide or name calling as far as I could see.

I've picked out this bit as what I see the crux of things, your interpretation of success is different to mine our league position is a sort of booby prize to me it says wherever the true competitors are we'll sit just outside.

It justifies everything - the defensive set up, the poor entertainment, the lack of cup success, the "derby" record - it's just doesn't do that for me. IMO Moyes has reached what I'd expect anyone to do given the Rooney golden egg.

If he'd developed a team of youngsters or unknowns that may have lost games they should have won but had creativity and showed progression with maturity I'd hold a different opinion.

I make no claims for which view carries the majority I just know more fellas who won't go to watch EFC because of the above than lads who go - in fact I don't know anyone who goes now.
 
We offer pretty much guarenteed job security, one of the top wages of any club ever and a top ten premier league squad. We could get better than mcleish.

Moyes only has job security, a top ten squad and top wages because he has earnt it. If he was languishing near the bottom of the league for a couple of seasons after arriving he would have none of those 3 things.
 
Moyes only has job security, a top ten squad and top wages because he has earnt it. If he was languishing near the bottom of the league for a couple of seasons after arriving he would have none of those 3 things.

We kept him after we finished 17th in his second full season, mate. Our board aren't a trigger happy bunch.
 
You feel the board of directors had a hand in getting Everton 4th spot back in 2005?

No, but then I think they are two separate entities which was my argument.. You see if backing Moyes is backing the board then congrats are in order to the board for 2005, personally I don't buy it as I thought Moyes did a cracking job that year and the board were... well the board.
Just demonstrating the difference between the two entities.
 
And what a great decision that was.

Meanwhile, at Wolves......

It was a good decision. I don't buy that Wolves would have stayed up if they hadn't sacked McCarthy though, that's media driven rubbish.

I mean to be clear, that was praise when I said they weren't tigger happy. I think it would help us attract a manager.
 
We kept him after we finished 17th in his second full season, mate. Our board aren't a trigger happy bunch.

And 11th 2 years later.

Which the board were right to do of course, however 99% of managers at other clubs would of been sacked that season.

I'd love to know what Moyes would of done since if that happened. Chances are he'd be a Sam Allardyce/Martin O'Neiil/Harry Redknapp kind of manager, some good things, some bad.
 
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